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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)
to summarize
Zlitni - just make sure humidity/temps are good and shallow water bowl is provided and don't worry if frog choose to not to go there, but even so you still need to change it very day.
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November 11th, 2012
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)

Originally Posted by
Lija
to summarize

Zlitni - just make sure humidity/temps are good and shallow water bowl is provided and don't worry if frog choose to not to go there, but even so you still need to change it very day.
Is it a better thing that they spend the most of the time under the spaghnum (like Grif say it does the most of the time), or spending the most of the time on the spaghnum and sometimes under? is there a difference, or? for example, i haven't seen him in the cave yet :-/
Well, i still got probs with seeing the poops, but i'm taking out some large ones that looks just like spaghnum... maybe i'm too tardy to see it
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)
I would hope you give it a nice sized bowl of water, they need to know its there to use. They like water as much as land.
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)

Originally Posted by
Zlitni
Is it a better thing that they spend the most of the time under the spaghnum (like Grif say it does the most of the time), or spending the most of the time on the spaghnum and sometimes under? is there a difference, or? for example, i haven't seen him in the cave yet :-/
Well, i still got probs with seeing the poops, but i'm taking out some large ones that looks just like spaghnum... maybe i'm too tardy to see it

wait a minute, you have moss in there? if so take it out and substitute with eco earth ( fine coconut fiber), moss posses a high risk of impaction and that is why you see it in a poop, just a matter of time when you'll get impacted frog, and i doubt you want it.
Pacs are ambush predators, they sit somewhere with eyes sticking out, pretending that they're rock, waiting for food to pass by, that is why they don't necessarily use cave or anything for that matter, they may ignore it all and burrow themselves in the middle of open space, they may spend here all their time moving out only after they poop. that is normal. or they may choose to burrow themselves under cover, but still probably just halfway to ensure they're aware of possible food around them :lol: when they completely full they may completely disappear under substrate to digest and appear a few days later to check on food, one of mine would do so and after a few days she would get out and beg for food like salamanders do, but it is exception more then rule.
Save one animal and it doesn't change the world, but it surely changes the world for that one animal!
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)
Just don't put food on eco fiber, I put my food on a rock.
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)

Originally Posted by
Lija
wait a minute, you have moss in there? if so take it out and substitute with eco earth ( fine coconut fiber), moss posses a high risk of impaction and that is why you see it in a poop, just a matter of time when you'll get impacted frog, and i doubt you want it.
What if it's unfertilized spaghnum? 
About the temp, the frog have 75 cm length... in the first about 50 cm (2/3) the temp is about 24-28, and the last 20-25 cm (1/3) do have 21-24. Is that okay? It's because i have a lamp a little bit like this standing on the floor at one of the ends at the terrarium and shining directly (it can bend over and down) down through it, over the net (the high 47-48 cm) with this one...
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)

Originally Posted by
Zlitni
What if it's
unfertilized spaghnum?

will be back later on the rest I need to run now.
unfertilized moss is also a moss
ingested it will be a cause of impaction, sooner or later. take it out as soon as you can!
Save one animal and it doesn't change the world, but it surely changes the world for that one animal!
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)
If its sphagnum I read its not good, eco earth is better. I am trying to imagine your lights.
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)

Originally Posted by
Zlitni
What if it's
unfertilized spaghnum?
About the temp, the frog have 75 cm length... in the first about 50 cm (2/3) the temp is about 24-28, and the last 20-25 cm (1/3) do have 21-24. Is that okay? It's because i have a lamp a little bit
like this standing on the floor at one of the ends at the terrarium and shining directly (it can bend over and down) down through it, over the net (the high 47-48 cm) with
this one...
the infrared bulb is good and exactly what you need for night and day, the lamp fixture itself doesn't matter, but the ones that have dimmer switch are better as you can control the amount of heat or you can plug your lamp into herpistat, you need different temp for day and night, it is easier to achieve using dimmer switch or herpistat.
when you check humidity and temps the gauges need to be on a level where the frog lives, so you need to stick them a bit above the substrate preferably in the middle of back wall of your tank. so check it out and see what are the temps. you want day at about 80-82F ( 26-28C) and night 76-78F (24-26C)
Save one animal and it doesn't change the world, but it surely changes the world for that one animal!
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)

Originally Posted by
Lija
the infrared bulb is good and exactly what you need for night and day, the lamp fixture itself doesn't matter, but the ones that have dimmer switch are better as you can control the amount of heat or you can plug your lamp into herpistat, you need different temp for day and night, it is easier to achieve using dimmer switch or herpistat.
when you check humidity and temps the gauges need to be on a level where the frog lives, so you need to stick them a bit above the substrate preferably in the middle of back wall of your tank. so check it out and see what are the temps. you want day at about 80-82F ( 26-28C) and night 76-78F (24-26C)
Thank you very much... then maybe i'll move the lamp to the middle of the terrarium, actually i've been thinking about that before, but decided the end
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)

Originally Posted by
Zlitni
Thank you very much... then maybe i'll move the lamp to the middle of the terrarium, actually i've been thinking about that before, but decided the end

The center is best as it provides more overall heat coverage.

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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)

Originally Posted by
GrifTheGreat
The center is best as it provides more overall heat coverage.
By the way... next month i'll buy an plexiglass-plate over the "chicken net". Would that be fine?
If so, what is best... making a plate who covers everything but not 1/4, or that it goes all over the net but with smaller width?
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)
I'll think not... too little air i think
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)

Originally Posted by
Zlitni
I'll think not... too little air i think

delete my last message
You can use plexiglass. Just drill holes in it for air.

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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)
Argentine or Bell's Horned Frog-Ceratophrys ornata The snout suggests male.
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Re: Beginner needs help (terrarium) :)

Originally Posted by
BuckeyeHerp
Argentine or Bell's Horned Frog-Ceratophrys ornata The snout suggests male.
Species is correct, but with it being just a baby there is no way of knowing sex of an Ornata at this young stage. Good guess though.

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