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    I just noticed on another thread you mentioned coconut fiber being a risk for respiratory infection due to it being dry and powdery. The plantation soil is coconut fiber or husk, I'd have to check again, but it is fairly fine. It's not dusty, but is this still a substrate which could be problematic?
    Also, in continuing to look into UVB: is the advantage of UVB that it stimulates the frog's appetite and normal activity as opposed to being a "health essential?" If that makes sense...

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    Lol sorry I keep adding addendums: if you look at the picture you can see what I mean about the substrate being fine but not powdery. It's one that was mentioned being ok for waxeys in another forum/caresheet if you want something natural. I use an under-tank heater to help with the ambient temp so that's why I opted for a substrate.

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    take the plantation soil out, it is good for high humidity terrariums, very bad for low humidity, it posses a high risk of serious respiratory blockage, actually one of my snakes died because of that. I prefer to use felt carpet for waxys, easy to clean, reusable and is green anything on a ground would be risk of something, either impaction or resp. problems those are very stupid frogs :lol: especially when they hunt. do you know how she used to eat? they not always eat from tongs or hand, I'm just throwing crickets in, and they're gone next morning and my frogs are sitting with round bellies. none of them figured out the glass bowl trick, what can i say they are not too smart for a frog :lol;

    night temp - I won't go lower then 75, but won't be panicking if it drops to 70 once in while.
    2% uvb is fine.

    average boys are 2.5, girls 3', but both can be bigger then that, check for nuptial pads, if boy it may have them ( or not) depending on his mood, and if you can post pic of profile of the frog ( face sideways) boys have a bit different shape then girls.
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    I'm in a really arid climate so it actually balances the humdity out well, but yeah I don't want to risk an infection.
    At the store they would just leave crickets overnight haha.
    I've read about the nuptial pads, haven't been able to get a good look yet. I'll post a profile picture here soon! Thanks again for your help!

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    Here's a couple profile pictures! Again the lighting isn't the greatest so she/he looks a little washed out and duller than actuall is. Are those good enough for you to be able to tell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    Here's a couple profile pictures! Again the lighting isn't the greatest so she/he looks a little washed out and duller than actuall is. Are those good enough for you to be able to tell?
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    a girl!
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    Nice! Haha i'll have to come up with a new name for her! Just thought I'd report too she seems to be adapting well. Looking a lot more relaxed now when resting and hunted her first three crickets last night! It was fun to watch!

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    to illustrate what I was looking at see pic below

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    see the difference in profile shape? - that is the best way to differentiate when they're juvenile, for adults it is that, the size (females are much bigger) and nuptial pads for boys - black spot on inside of his thumb, very similar to those for pacmans, but those are visible only when they're in breeding mood. I had somewhere a pic, can't find it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    I don't want to risk an infection.
    At the store they would just leave crickets overnight haha.
    my snake ( beautiful rainbow boa) that i mentioned died because of respiratory blockage, he inhaled substrate and it blocked his airway, we did autopsy, he was very healthy otherwise, it was really weird, one minute he is all happy and eating well, the next day he is dead.



    hahaha - yeah watch them hunt is something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lija View Post
    my snake ( beautiful rainbow boa) that i mentioned died because of respiratory blockage, he inhaled substrate and it blocked his airway, we did autopsy, he was very healthy otherwise, it was really weird, one minute he is all happy and eating well, the next day he is dead.



    hahaha - yeah watch them hunt is something.
    Sorry to hear about your Boa! I found an alternative to the plantation soil I think will work well, it's called tree fern. Another high humidty, but again where I live it's pretty much a high alititude desert so I think it should do just fine. The substrate itself is also not small enough to end up ingested by the frog. The felt's a decent idea, haha but I'm a big fan of trying to keep a really natural look--plus it's helping me anchor some of the branches in place.

    She was up again hutning a while tonight and ventured a littel farther into her enclosure, so I'm gald to see she's adapting well! Haha I'm trying to get a video of her hunting I can post..

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    She looks really good, Helios. Those are definitely the coolest tree frog on the market.

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