So I fed the Crayfish (Video)

[Maharg]

...To my Rococo Toad. I know this is the Pacman frog section but my Rococo Toad is a beast so I thought id start with her, then try it with a Pacman later. As usual, she has continued her extremely regular bowel movement cycle of 2 or 3 BMs a day. No impaction and happy as ever. Im sure there will be no ill effects, as I wouldnt have fed it if I thought there might be.

[GrifTheGreat]

Are you ignoring the advice that was given on the Crayfish?? DISEASE, HARD CHITIN SHELL, ETC??? Saying it wasn't safe for a Pacman also meant it isn't safe for ANY of your frogs/toads. They all are equally susceptible to diseases carried by the Crayfish.

[Pluke]

Wow, she freakin' inhaled that thing with no problem. Another great video man.

[Lija]

your toad is a monster! but to feed crayfish is a little too much for a frog, glad it is doing ok.

I'm thinking if my family said no more frogs it doesn't apply to toads, right? and i will still get cornuta anyway:lol: they have lost that battle.

[Maharg]

your toad is a monster! but to feed crayfish is a little too much for a frog, glad it is doing ok.

I'm thinking if my family said no more frogs it doesn't apply to toads, right? and i will still get cornuta anyway:lol: they have lost that battle.

Lol exactly. A toad isnt a frog so go ahead lol. When do you get the cornuta?

[Lija]

whenever i can :lol: most realistically I'll need to get down to states in spring if Mike will have it as he said. or if Jim ( J&J) will be able to get it sooner.

[Maharg]

whenever i can :lol: most realistically I'll need to get down to states in spring if Mike will have it as he said. or if Jim ( J&J) will be able to get it sooner.

Nice. Keep me updated.

[Maharg]

Are you ignoring the advice that was given on the Crayfish?? DISEASE, HARD CHITIN SHELL, ETC??? Saying it wasn't safe for a Pacman also meant it isn't safe for ANY of your frogs/toads. They all are equally susceptible to diseases carried by the Crayfish.

Heres some advice I got from Ra in my original post, which backs the resesrch I did as well.

"Crustaceans are not the same thing as anthropods and their shells generally do not contain the same chitins. Isopods for instance, are land dwelling crustaceans the exoskeleton of which consists mostly of calcium. I have seen video of a Horned Fropg eating a crayfish and I have heard of them being fed as part of a varied diet to Horned frogs, Budgetts Frogs and Pyxie Frogs alike without any mention of a problem."

And nowhere did you, or anybody else mention anything about desease.

So I did indeed follow advice. Or does your over 5 thousand posts give you the authority and make all other advice moot?

[Maharg]

And why would they have desease? They are captive bred feeder crayfish.

[IrishRonin]

That's one good looking toad! Ok I have feed farm raised feeder crayfish to a few of my animals over the years and have seen no ill effects, of course its never been to frogs/toads. I think if you done your research and you know where your getting them from you should be ok, plus that little guy was well with in the size range of food for you big guy/girl.

[GrifTheGreat]

Ill mention it now then. DISEASES! CB does not mean disease free. It goes along the lines of Store bought feeder fish. You don't know whether its a clean viable source it not so the risk ultimately outweigh the benefit!!. About the Crustaceans and arthropods being the same? Nowhere did I say they were the same and just for the info. Crustacean shells may comprised of less calcium than that of arthropod, but their chitin is much harder. They must bear the pressure of water constantly pressing down on them for the majority or near all their lives. Air doesn't produce the same amount of pressure.

Anyone who buys pet store feeder fish risks the animal they feed them to, to disease exposure. Not to mention antibiotics that are added to the water source. They are your animals so do what you will, but I have now warned you and now you know.

I will not be posting here again in this thread.

[DVirginiana]

It's probably mostly safe to feed a crayfish to your frog. I've seen bullfrogs eat crayfish in the wild; I've also seen a lot of dead wild bullfrogs over the years. This just seems like one of those things that you can do a dozen times with no issue then suddenly have a very sick animal on your hands. I know a lot of people do stuff like this, but I've never understood why people feed reptiles a potentially dangerous food source especially when safer foods are cheaper and easier to come by.

On a different note; that toad is a monster. Very nice animal.

[Lija]

sorry for hijacking your thread :lol: remember how I said that I was told no more frogs, right? so my hubby just called me that riverfront have a lot of baby tiger salamanders and that he kinda wants to get one and asking if we could find one empty small tank )) and yes we do have one, sitting lonely in a corner, apparently not just me is having addiction nice!!!! so going to get a toad now

[Maharg]

sorry for hijacking your thread :lol: remember how I said that I was told no more frogs, right? so my hubby just called me that riverfront have a lot of baby tiger salamanders and that he kinda wants to get one and asking if we could find one empty small tank )) and yes we do have one, sitting lonely in a corner, apparently not just me is having addiction nice!!!! so going to get a toad now

Lol perfect! Ive actually been eying those tiger salamders myself. They have quite a few of them right now and I think they are pretty neat. If I had an extra tank myself, id likely get one too. Do you think you will actually get a toad? What kind would you get? I dont like to play favourites but I have a couple Pacs and a Pixie frog but I find a toad just overflows with personality. And they get REALLY excited about food. If you manage to get a large one like a Rococo, be ready to be buying food a lot more often lol. Like im talking easily 5 times more then all my other pets combined. And the water dish cleanup follows haha.

[Pluke]

I know the more I see your toad the more I want to get one. I have a ton of dubia roaches that none of the other frogs will eat. How long have you had her and was she a CB baby when you got her? I don't think I've ever seen a baby rococo toad for sale.

[Maharg]

I know the more I see your toad the more I want to get one. I have a ton of dubia roaches that none of the other frogs will eat. How long have you had her and was she a CB baby when you got her? I don't think I've ever seen a baby rococo toad for sale.

Thanks. She really is an amazing amphib to own. And will certainly take all the roaches you can give. They will literally eat anything and everything without hesitation. Ive only had her a couple months, and im assuming she was wild caught as ive never seen a baby Rococo either. Or any for that matter except the 2 that the pet store managed to get in. Im not sure about laws regarding Canes or Rococos in certain states, but if you can manage to find any way to possibly get a hold of one, id strongly recommend it.

[Pluke]

I saw one at my local pet shop for $90 if I remember right, I saw one at the reptile show once too. Prices just seemed a bit high..

[Maharg]

I saw one at my local pet shop for $90 if I remember right, I saw one at the reptile show once too. Prices just seemed a bit high..

I paid 160 lol. But they are very very rare here. Only pet store that sells them here has only ever got the 2 in. They said they doubt they will ever get them in again too.

[Pluke]

Oh, wow. Well maybe the price isn't too far off then. I imagine in canada it is hard to get certain animals, especially in certain parts so you gotta pay extra when you find something unique/rare. I'd say she was worth it.

[Maharg]

Oh, wow. Well maybe the price isn't too far off then. I imagine in canada it is hard to get certain animals, especially in certain parts so you gotta pay extra when you find something unique/rare. I'd say she was worth it.

Exactly. All tropical animals are more up here. But if you come across one again, snap it up if you can.