Getting my frog today!!

[Wicked frogs]

That's not a bad deal i love the mom and pop stores i would rather give my money to them then the lager chain stores even though i bought mine at petsmart lol but yea keep us posted i would like to see the little one grow!!!

[ejh805]

I thought so too
They didn't seem to be too educated as far as substrate (what the frog WAS in was just begging for an impaction), but the big guy they did have looked very healthy.

Speaking of petsmart, the one I live near pisses me off when I see the conditions the reptiles are kept in. They have a large adult jacksons chameleon in a tiny tiny bare glass show cage with a deep water bowl and a loose twig. Nothing for it to hide under or climb on, and as far as I've read, chams wont drink out of a water bowl. When I go in there to buy feeder mice for my snake, I always see him and hes pushed himself into the back corner of the enclosure and just looks stressed. I want to save him, but I can't afford to. The leopard and fat tail geckos are all skinny, and the ball python is so cramped s/he can barely move around.

[Wicked frogs]

Yea most of the Petsmarts and Petco's i go to around here they do ok but nothing like a little private owned business, since there are like 100 pet stores within a 20 mile range around here it's a hit and miss but i know and have seen what you are talking about and it pisses me off too!

[deranged chipmunk]

I know it sucks to see them like that. But you need to remember a pet store, regardless of size, are mostly do as i say not as i do places. A few stores do show their animals in the proper environment, but most do not. Remember, sometimes the best environment is the worst for sales. I was at my lfs today, and they are gearing up for their annual sale. They want to start pushing reptiles, so they brought 2 big herp racks in. They are going to keep certain animals, like the kenyan sand boa in it because the snake naturally burrows, so noone even knows it's in the tank. They need to disturb it every time someone wants to see it, putting the poor animal through unneeded stress. It's all about sales. If the custimer can't see it, they can't buy it. Luckily, more and more independent stores are putting some terriums to good use and setting up nice homes for them to live in until someone buys them. But the chains will always be an assembly line mentality.

[ejh805]

I'm having trouble getting the new baby to eat
I'll put a cricket in the enclosure with him/her and s/he tries to catch it but can't and eventually gives up.
Maybe it's stressed or just ate a lot yesterday? :/

[Wicked frogs]

I know it sounds a little wacked out but it works rip the back legs off of the cricket so there no so fast, I am pretty sure that will help you and you little one

[ejh805]

Tim, that's exactly what I had to do.
And it's not too whacked. They seem to drop their legs like some lizards drop their tails.
Better than having to stun mice...

[Wicked frogs]

lol how do you stun mice cause i have neva herd of that before?