Sick Pacman

[nev]

Thanks Sherry...it seems that his feeding may be the answer and maybe tank cleaning stressing him out.
Because you are the second person who told me I am feeding him too quickly.
He is in a humid environment in the 80's, I have a glass top on it to hold in the humidity, the screened top was too dry.
I hope he is ok in the morning, if so he will go to the vet.

[Sunshine]

You are welcome! I try to help when I can I hope your baby makes it through the night so he can go to the doctor. Keep me updated on his progress. If you ever have questions about anything we would be happy to help! Maybe when he is feeling better you can post some pics? We love pics here! Good luck!

[Lija]

then I'll be the next person to tell you - never ever feed pacman mice as a staple, only as treat no more then once a month, 4y old is about time when consequences are starting to come out. It seems some kind of neuro damage is happening to him. hope he'll pull it through and I'm glad you are going to the vet.

as for pet store advices.... i better not go into it, too many threads on here on a topic, too many frog deaths and problems, to summarize - never listen to pet store people and do your own research.

what kind of water are you using? what are the temps? why are you soaking him in a water changing it every 4 hours? did i get the last part right? would you post pic of the enclosure and the frog.

[nev]

then I'll be the next person to tell you - never ever feed pacman mice as a staple, only as treat no more then once a month, 4y old is about time when consequences are starting to come out. It seems some kind of neuro damage is happening to him. hope he'll pull it through and I'm glad you are going to the vet.

as for pet store advices.... i better not go into it, too many threads on here on a topic, too many frog deaths and problems, to summarize - never listen to pet store people and do your own research.

what kind of water are you using? what are the temps? why are you soaking him in a water changing it every 4 hours? did i get the last part right? would you post pic of the enclosure and the frog.

Hi Lija...I have well water that does not have any chemicals, I also do not have a water softener. I was soaking him because as I was researching his symptoms pointed to Toxic Out Syndrome and that is what seem to be reccomended, it looked like it was helping because a milky white subtance was coming from his butt, but I I really have no idea. Temps are in the 80's, it is humid, Let me see if I can get some pics for you.
Thank you )

[Sunshine]

Are you dechlorinating his water? Well water still has lots of heavy metals and chloramines in it which are toxic.

[nev]

I have a PUR water filter on the faucet

[Ra]

100 percent humidity is far too high and may be contributing to your problem. You should use a screen top and add a cork bark hide.

Your frog also looks quite bloated, and I would say you are certainly over feeding.

[nev]

OK...I still have the screen, I will replace it and can try the other substrate.
I will see what the doctor says tomorrow...Thanks.

[infamouschris7]

I have a PUR water filter on the faucet

I also have a PUR water filter and ill drop some dechlorinator in the water still

[Lija]

any news from a vet?

i agree with Ra - Tubby looks bloated, which may be partly because of what he was eating and partly because of the water. You need to get water conditioner for reptiles/amphibians and use it- well or tap water doesn't matter.
as well - is you glass cover completely covering top? they need humidity, but also need to airflow, not as much as for example waxy frogs, but top can't be completely covered. and another thing - where is the location of UTH, you said you're using it, but I don't see it in the pic, if it is under tank you need to attach it to the side.

not related to your current problems but it seems that water bowl is too deep for him or may be it is just angle on the pic.

milky substance can be his urine that has changed because of him being overfed with mice, it is called fatty kidney disease, but given he is obese he probably have bunch of other problems. I'm keeping my fingers crossed he will be ok.

[Ra]

I would cut back on the mice. If its Four years old, and depending on whether its a male or a female, only needs to eat once every ten to fourteen days. Change things up with a trip to the store once every couple of weeks and get some nightcrawlers or crickets, or some healthy looking fish (avoid the cheap feeder fish tanks) Cut the mice back to once a month.

If you change your bedding every two weeks, then you should consider checking out the conditions of your water and also whether or not the coco fiber is getting soggy.

[nev]

Thank you for the help, I appreciate your input.

[nev]

I am not sure of the sex...I just refer to him as a male. He never makes any noise..I never hear croaking or anything else.
I can try nightcrawlers but he will not go for crickets or fish, I have tried both.
I always make sure the environment is humid and never soggy, if I spill water in there when I replace his dish I just pick out the saturated material.
Have always used this same substrate, I have never changed anything because he has always been healthy and never had any illness, I am wondering if he is just getting old, I have read they can live for about 5 years, is that correct?
Any thoughts on that white stuff coming out of his rear?
Thank you )

[nev]

Here is Tubby...he also has a ZooMed under tank heater as well as his lamp. He has stopped twitching now and he is sitting in his water now, When he gets out I will change the water again. I left it like this so you can see that white stuff in the corner, it comes out of his rear and is not skin, could that be toxins?