mine cranwelli is very stubborn too, he'd eat mice, but he is getting only once in a month or 2, nigthcrawlers and crickets are his staple and you need to dance around big time before he eats it. now I have a system in place, when he eats his first nightcrawler and almost done I'm taking another one from both ends and when he opens month to take another bite of a worm I'm putting middle of a new one in his mouth pulling ends back. hope my explanation makes sense but this way at least i don;t need to dance around with each worm separately :lol: oh those frogs