I give up!!!

[Pluke]

I had a stubborn frog for a while. he wouldn't eat anything but crickets, then one day he tried a nightcrawler chunk.. now he refuses anything that's not nightcrawler, heh. You're just going to have to be patient, keep offering when you feed. Maybe you could wait an extra day or two of not feeding then offer one. The same green that won't take anything but nightcrawlers pretty much refuses to eat from the tongs anymore, too. It's weird, as a baby he always did.. now he just looks at me weird. If I set the nightcrawler in front of him, he'll eat it. I don't remove him from the tank and he's on eco earth, I pack the eco earth down a bit where I'm going to set the worm so that it doesn't get as much dirt on it as it would if it was loose.

If I remove my frogs from their homes to feed them.. they pretty much refuse to eat and do nothing but try to escape. So that doesn't work for all of us. Good luck getting him to take a worm.. they're a lot better than crickets once he starts eating them, that's for sure.

[arielgasca420]

try roaches. one frog only eats night crawlers and the other only eats crickets and roaches. it is hard to keep everyone happy

[Lija]

mine cranwelli is very stubborn too, he'd eat mice, but he is getting only once in a month or 2, nigthcrawlers and crickets are his staple and you need to dance around big time before he eats it. now I have a system in place, when he eats his first nightcrawler and almost done I'm taking another one from both ends and when he opens month to take another bite of a worm I'm putting middle of a new one in his mouth pulling ends back. hope my explanation makes sense but this way at least i don;t need to dance around with each worm separately :lol: oh those frogs

[DVirginiana]

Like has already been suggested, try roaches. Mine would only eat crickets when I first got her and nothing else, but the roaches were similar enough that she'd take them. Even after that I had to trick her into trying nightcrawlers when I wanted to switch her over.

[Jaba96]

I'am in the same boat as you my brother my pacman Jaba will NOT anything but dusted Crickets but tonight I try to convert him to Red Wigglers

[DVirginiana]

I'am in the same boat as you my brother my pacman Jaba will NOT anything but dusted Crickets but tonight I try to convert him to Red Wigglers

Good luck with that. I've never had anything that will touch wigglers. I think the smell of that goo they secrete just puts most things off.

[brillobee]

My new pacman is a stubborn feeder too, all he wants is crickets. That is what he is used to and recognizes as food. Tonight after starving him for two days, I tried nightcrawlers again. No go. So I broke down and put some crickets in there. Then I got a idea. When he would strike at a cricket, I held the nightcrawler in tongs in front. Yes! He ate it. After a few times of that, he realized that those slimy things were food too and would take them on his own! Ate about 1/2 a crawler tonight. (oh I also feed in a separate container. That way he doesn't accidentaly eat some cocofiber)

[GRABibus]

mine cranwelli is very stubborn too, he'd eat mice, but he is getting only once in a month or 2, nigthcrawlers and crickets are his staple and you need to dance around big time before he eats it. now I have a system in place, when he eats his first nightcrawler and almost done I'm taking another one from both ends and when he opens month to take another bite of a worm I'm putting middle of a new one in his mouth pulling ends back. hope my explanation makes sense but this way at least i don;t need to dance around with each worm separately :lol: oh those frogs

Yep, I did the same with my former cranwelli

[Hoppity100]

Mine must be different because they eat in their aquarium, I would not remove them to eat in a different container, in the wild they would not go somewhere else to eat unless there is a threat or some other reason. If you keep trying I hope they would eat where they are. I won't give mine roaches, gee the shell would be hard to digest since it takes driving a truck over them (roaches) to kill them, I even wonder how mine digest crickets! I even think worms are the easiest for frogs to eat. I'd like to offer mine guppies but am leary of getting a sick fish, frogs would probably love it though.

[arielgasca420]

Mine must be different because they eat in their aquarium, I would not remove them to eat in a different container, in the wild they would not go somewhere else to eat unless there is a threat or some other reason. If you keep trying I hope they would eat where they are. I won't give mine roaches, gee the shell would be hard to digest since it takes driving a truck over them (roaches) to kill them, I even wonder how mine digest crickets! I even think worms are the easiest for frogs to eat. I'd like to offer mine guppies but am leary of getting a sick fish, frogs would probably love it though.

im sure most living things you drive a truck over would die. yes, they can survive one week without their heads and some levels of radioactivity, but they cannot withstand the weight of a truck. in other words, they are no Tardigrade!
but i digress, some are easier to digest than crickets. I suggest B. dubia because they have less chitin than crickets, they are less aggressive, and a better meat:shell ratio.
I love my colony of roaches and they save me a lot of money.

[Hoppity100]

The roaches you have are different from cockroaches? What color and size are they? The roaches I saw here once were the toughest thing I ever had to kill, the shell was as hard as a walnut almost. I even wonder still how frogs can digest a cricket, but somehow they do. But if you have different roaches, soft shell, saving you money, all the power to you. I would like to have my own earthworms going but was told to not use them from my yard. I have not looked for a store that sells them, but I have dirt and a large container when I am ready to breed some. Glad you explained your roaches, our stores don't sell any, but they have crickets and worms.

[DVirginiana]

The roaches you have are different from cockroaches? What color and size are they? The roaches I saw here once were the toughest thing I ever had to kill, the shell was as hard as a walnut almost. I even wonder still how frogs can digest a cricket, but somehow they do. But if you have different roaches, soft shell, saving you money, all the power to you. I would like to have my own earthworms going but was told to not use them from my yard. I have not looked for a store that sells them, but I have dirt and a large container when I am ready to breed some. Glad you explained your roaches, our stores don't sell any, but they have crickets and worms.

You're thinking about German cockroaches. The kind you'd feed to frogs are dubia roaches. They're a tropical species, and you usually have to order them off the internet. I used to have a colony, but IMO with just one animal that eats them, they were more trouble than they were worth.

WalMart sells nightcrawlers for about two dollars a container. Just make sure you get the kind that haven't been dyed fluorescent green. It's not just the worms from the yard you shouldn't use though, but the dirt too. You have no way of knowing what sorts of pesticides and toxins wash in with rainwater, even if you don't actually spray them on your yard. If the worms eat that and then your frog eats the worms, it can still cause problems.

[Hoppity100]

I wondered about these roaches, and thanks for letting me know Walmart sells earthworms, I'll get some this weekend. The crickets here are 10/$1 and I think that is way too much. My frogs love chasing them though. So, I'm going to check out other stores for crickets. Am real glad if I can get earthworms at Walmart, the frogs will no doubt like them, too.

[lumpbump]

Mine must be different because they eat in their aquarium, I would not remove them to eat in a different container, in the wild they would not go somewhere else to eat unless there is a threat or some other reason. If you keep trying I hope they would eat where they are. I won't give mine roaches, gee the shell would be hard to digest since it takes driving a truck over them (roaches) to kill them, I even wonder how mine digest crickets! I even think worms are the easiest for frogs to eat. I'd like to offer mine guppies but am leary of getting a sick fish, frogs would probably love it though.

Only part of dubia roaches that dont get digested are the wing buds and wings of the adult males. My dubia colony has taken off recently. Ive had 5 nymphs molt into adult males this past week. My frog pounded a couple of them and ill have to examine his poop in a couple days to see exactly how much wings remain.

[DVirginiana]

If you can find a bait shop you trust, they usually have very good deals on crickets and sell some of the biggest ones around. But be careful, because bait shops aren't the most careful with making sure their bait is feeder quality. I used to buy crickets from this guy who bred his own in the shop and eventually started advertising as selling feeders for reptiles since there were not petstores within 45 minutes of the town I lived in.
I'd never buy worms from a bait shop though, even if there was a great buy. It's just too risky.

[Hoppity100]

Sounds like these are too risky to give to a frog. I would not take this risk with mine. In fact, today I bought earthworms for them, and I was shocked they would not try them. My wax worms don't move enough and the darn mealworms I bought don't last long enough. I even cared for mealworms like the internet suggested and they still don't last. I guess I'll go back to buying crickets.

[DVirginiana]

Mealworms are a serious impaction risk and shouldn't be given to pacs. Waxworms aren't much better. Their exoskeletons don't really digest at all...

What sounds risky? Bait-shop crickets? I'd agree, most of them are. But if you find a store that breeds their own, then you can find out exactly how they're being cared for and know whether they're safe. I definitely wouldn't just walk into a bait shop and buy something to feed any of my reptiles

Seems like a lot of pacs aren't very interested in nightcrawlers at first. You can try rubbing the nightcrawler on your frog's lips; a lot of times they will get annoyed and bite it, then keep eating once they realize it's food. Once they start eating them, they usually love them.
You say 'earthworms', are you sure you're getting nightcrawlers? Most places don't sell actual earthworms, only nightcrawlers and wigglers. Make sure you aren't getting red wigglers; nothing really seems to like those

[Hoppity100]

It sounded to me like the cockroaches were risky. I won't offer my frogs those, but, I got earthworms today and frogs refused them. I also have wax worms and mealworms. Their favorite is crickets. But I buy 20 crickets each time and several always die and some were large enough that I really don't know how frogs ate them without having a serious problem. The wax worms I have are never wiggly enough for frogs to see them. If I get small crickets I can't catch them, they spring out of their box faster than the eye can see. But I'll keep offering mine different food so they don't get bored.

[DVirginiana]

It sounded to me like the cockroaches were risky. I won't offer my frogs those, but, I got earthworms today and frogs refused them. I also have wax worms and mealworms. Their favorite is crickets. But I buy 20 crickets each time and several always die and some were large enough that I really don't know how frogs ate them without having a serious problem. The wax worms I have are never wiggly enough for frogs to see them. If I get small crickets I can't catch them, they spring out of their box faster than the eye can see. But I'll keep offering mine different food so they don't get bored.

Dubia roaches aren't risky at all. You should never feed your frog any random roach you just happen to catch, but dubias are bred by people who have businesses dedicated to producing reptile feeders, and they're 100% safe.

Crickets are a pain. How large is your frog? A good rule for the size animal a frog can eat is the food shouldn't be any wider than the space between their eyes. Most pacs can probably eat larger food than that, but if you're not sure it's a good rule to go by. Are you tong-feeding? Give that a try. Sometimes frogs will respond better to food being waved right in front of their face than something lying in the dirt.