sexing pacman

[Lija]

quick question - in order to determine sex should you go with size or age or both?

i got my ornate at the end of august at 1'size ( 1 month?) yesterday it was over 3'5, no nuptial pads, no croaking. is it actually a female or too young to tell and those pads will develop (or not) when they reach sexual maturity at 8-9 month?

[Kira Hudson]

dose it chirp im not sure but i think males call only

[Lija]

anyone?

[Pluke]

My males started calling after about 2 months. I got them at quarter size. My albino male has a distinct nuptial pad and I've had him since august at quarter size. These are just cranwelli though, I'm not sure about the Ornata.

[GrifTheGreat]

Age and Size are both indicators. These frogs mature at very different rates. Both my Ornates are male. One started calling at about 5.5 months. The other matured very quickly and was calling at less than two months old. We thought it was female because it was growing so fast, but next thing I knew he was calling away. I think the more males you have calling, the younger the new males are when they start calling. Anyway, if yours is already 3.5 inches then chances are it is female. You can always try playing some videos of other Pacs calling and see if you get a response.

[Lija]

thanks guys, at this point my 3 month old ornate is sitting at 4' already, male cranwelli ( a bit over 3')who is in a tank close by, looks like a baby in comparison, haven't heard any calling, and no pads, looks like i have a girl and given the rate she is growing it is going to be a big one will try to play some calling videos anyway tonight, when I tried before for some reason my waxys were responding to them better then my cranwelli :lol: