fire belly toads dying

[kroberts009]

Oh thank you for letting me know, you're doing the right thing! Hope he keeps eating. Its ok if you write later to let me know how he is doing.

so far so good, he ate this morning.. and weve moved on to no gravel, and replaced it with moss. hes still very active and exploring around his enclosure. hopefully things turn out alright. thanks for everyones assistance in the matter

[Hoppity100]

You're welcome! I'm glad everything is better.

[kroberts009]

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! i now have a pink pebble on the floor of the enclousure (all had been removed previously) not sure which end the pebble came from... but hoping this means were through the difficult part!

[Hoppity100]

Hey, this is good news! Hope this was your answer. Glad you wrote.

[MantisMan]

was it pink when he swallowed it? if not it may be from blood
if he doesnt want to eat for a while it may mean the pebble scratched him inside and he's trying to heal his organs
i hope he recovers...

[kroberts009]

was it pink when he swallowed it? if not it may be from blood
if he doesnt want to eat for a while it may mean the pebble scratched him inside and he's trying to heal his organs
i hope he recovers...

thanks for checking, the rock he swallowed was pink. still happily eating crickets. going to keep an eye on him for at least another week, before i can rest comfortably about being in the clear.

[Hoppity100]

I'm glad to know he is ok. Now if I could just get mine to like earthworms! They want crickets and the crickets are hard to keep and one ended up in my car. I don't know how he could have escaped the pet store bag.

[kroberts009]

I'm glad to know he is ok. Now if I could just get mine to like earthworms! They want crickets and the crickets are hard to keep and one ended up in my car. I don't know how he could have escaped the pet store bag.

lol in your car is definitely a special treat! how do you keep your crickets? you know, i dont know if im "properly" keeping my crickets, but they seem to manage just fine and we have perfectly healthy frogs (other than rock mishaps =/ ). we will buy some and they last for weeks and weeks with few random deaths (other than by frog... lol) basically i went from one of those small storage tote containers to a tall plastic kitchen container (small crickets) and about a foot to a foot and a half tall container. with an open lid. just threw in the cardboard. for water, i wet paper towel balls every other day (they dry out faster in the open air container) and for food, i mix anything from cereal (oats types) to carrots to lol banana chips.. but i hear they are partial to parsley. and from what i gather, will eat just about anything they can... nothing quite like caring for the food that feeds your little friends

[Hoppity100]

Yeah, just think, I almost went thru an intersection because of it (laughing). Like an officer would believe me if I said I had a cricket in the car as he writes me a ticket! I keep mine in a good sized clear plastic tote, screen lid, by a lamp, had cotton balls that were wet, sprinkled oatmeal in bottom, put in small piece raw potato and small piece of apple. They had cardboard to hide in, but those little suckers died (not all, just a few out of 20). But, they were kept as I read about. Your idea sounds alot better! A tall wastebasket. If I thought mine wanted better food like tacos or spagetti, I would offer that LOL. But, most of them must have liked the food. I bought wax worms at the store, got home, they were all dead. Went back and exchanged them and when I bought them I asked if they were fresh (had no date) and was told they were. I should have known the young guy working may not know to check them? Now when I buy any worms, I open like 5 containers first. But, the frogs are cute friends!

[kroberts009]

Yeah, just think, I almost went thru an intersection because of it (laughing). Like an officer would believe me if I said I had a cricket in the car as he writes me a ticket! I keep mine in a good sized clear plastic tote, screen lid, by a lamp, had cotton balls that were wet, sprinkled oatmeal in bottom, put in small piece raw potato and small piece of apple. They had cardboard to hide in, but those little suckers died (not all, just a few out of 20). But, they were kept as I read about. Your idea sounds alot better! A tall wastebasket. If I thought mine wanted better food like tacos or spagetti, I would offer that LOL. But, most of them must have liked the food. I bought wax worms at the store, got home, they were all dead. Went back and exchanged them and when I bought them I asked if they were fresh (had no date) and was told they were. I should have known the young guy working may not know to check them? Now when I buy any worms, I open like 5 containers first. But, the frogs are cute friends!

that doesnt surprise me about the worms... going to be heading into one of my local petsmarts over the weekend to see what else they have available. i always check the containers and make them get my crickets out of the large bin, with it being so hot out here every now and then all the crickets in the premade packages die, before purchased. i dont know if you shop at petsmart, but if you sign up online. they email me coupons for free crickets or discounts on worms like every two weeks! just an idea

[Hoppity100]

Oh, thanks for letting me know about email thru petsmart with coupons. I bought my FBT's there but the dead worms came from pet supplies plus. Same store that would not give their hamsters a wheel. I questioned them about this at least a year or so ago. Got all kinds of ridiculous excuses. Recently I noticed they have given hamsters each a wheel, but I had to wait over a year for this. I noticed wheels after I emailed them with my list of complaints. I must have gotten my point across! Didn't mean to get off topic, but I would always check worms, too, as I learned the first time I bought some. If I could just get my toads to try earthworms. They seem like everything else but earthworms. I've had a little trouble keeping crickets so I am hoping mine will eat assorted worms. Its unpleasant for me to have to cut a large earthworm and hope they eat it before it stops moving.

[Hoppity100]

I forgot to ask where you are located as you said it was hot. I'm between Ohio and Michigan, ok like on the border. It is Fall now with noticeable weather changes, wonder if we'll have snow this year, last year was a warm, dry winter. I still have a jug of salt that I never needed from last year. Also wanted to ask: is there a correct way to offer toads an earthworm? I think they're not eating one because the worms are so big. I tried cutting them, yuck, and worms still were not appealing to them. Any tips are appreciated, thanks.

[MantisMan]

put the worms on a smooth surface or dangle them under the toad's nose and they'll be eaten

[Hoppity100]

Oh, I've already done that more than once. The darn earthworms are so long, I have to cut them. I think frogs are waiting for a cricket fest. Got new wax worms though, and mealworms. I will try tonight to put worms on a small flat round lid.

[kroberts009]

im in mcallen, texas. pet stores down here get really hot in the summer months... good news my little FB is still going well from the pebble... but now im thinking hes gone into hibernation. they both have. based upon a cold spell that we have been having. i freaked out thinking it was based upon an enclosure change that i had made, and switched it back after about 5 days... they have stopped eating at much. with very little interest in it. didnt notice any fecal samples when i cleaned the cage either. but there isnt any bloating visible in the frogs. im hoping its just a hibernation spell. ive never done FBTs in Texas before. only California where the weather was always beautiful

[Hoppity100]

Oh, okay, now I see your concerns. I live with 4 seasons and wonder if mine will hibernate, too. I'll read up on that. I'm glad yours are not bloated. Mine eat well so they look chubby. One is skinny but coming along. Maybe mine won't hibernate as long as my tank is at a constant temperature.

[kroberts009]

Oh, okay, now I see your concerns. I live with 4 seasons and wonder if mine will hibernate, too. I'll read up on that. I'm glad yours are not bloated. Mine eat well so they look chubby. One is skinny but coming along. Maybe mine won't hibernate as long as my tank is at a constant temperature.

honestly i dont know much about hibernation in FBTs. so i have been doing a lot of reading on th internet, and ive read alot about hibernation helping the following breeding season. people go to some interesting lengths for a successful breeding season, from putting them in the basement to putting them in moss filled tupperware and putting them in the fridge. with minimal feedings at approx 1 time a week. I DONT KNOW how accurate this informatin being provided is, and certainly dont plan on putting mine in the fridge to find out! im not looking to breed my two either, thats why they were seperated. MAYBE one day, like 2 years from now. we may give it a try.

there is just so much different information out there now adays, its hard to determine what is actually accurate. i guess its a lot of picking and choosing, and seeing what work best for you. given basic necessities are met!

at this point i am really hoping that its a hibernaion season and that the tank changes i tried last week. havent like some how poisioned my FBTs. im sure im being overly paranoid, but i think the ones who lol freak out about every little thing..... are still doing alright!

[Hoppity100]

I was unhappy to find out what people have tried with breeding methods. This should happen naturally, not by being in a fridge or basement. Good grief, do you think these same people believe that Shirley Temple is a church? laughing...and feedings of one day a week? That's abuse to me. I would never make any animal go a week without eating. Its crazy, I think. What were the tank changes you made beside the change you mentioned? Can't you keep yours together and just remove any eggs? I think they are not going to be happy being apart. I have 4 in same tank and they are just as content as can be. If mine leave any eggs I would remove them and certainly keep the frogs ofcourse. I can't imagine frogs breeding in an aquarium by choice but they probably have. Mine are too busy chasing crickets!

[kroberts009]

I was unhappy to find out what people have tried with breeding methods. This should happen naturally, not by being in a fridge or basement. Good grief, do you think these same people believe that Shirley Temple is a church? laughing...and feedings of one day a week? That's abuse to me. I would never make any animal go a week without eating. Its crazy, I think. What were the tank changes you made beside the change you mentioned? Can't you keep yours together and just remove any eggs? I think they are not going to be happy being apart. I have 4 in same tank and they are just as content as can be. If mine leave any eggs I would remove them and certainly keep the frogs ofcourse. I can't imagine frogs breeding in an aquarium by choice but they probably have. Mine are too busy chasing crickets!

the only change that was made to their tank. was that i put that the plastic rock like things in and took out the moss for a few days... noticed the changes in their behaviour. so i switched the cages back (after a few days) they are really enjoying their moss again and hiding under it! lol the day after we bought them, we had an attempta grab! lol... eventually ill end up putting them together. scooping out the eggs is a good idea.. although babies would be fun! eventually!

[Hoppity100]

Oh, I see...so they love their moss. If I could find a store that sold moss, I'd get some, too. Yeah, about eggs...if I find any I will remove them. Babies would be great but, my tank could not house them. If it were warm outside and they had babies I could donate them to our goldfish pond in a park about 1/2 mile away. We had tadpoles for the kids years ago and when they got big enough we took them to the pond. Boy, were they happy! I would be surprised if my frogs had eggs, eventhough I hear chirping every night, they are busy looking out the window or looking at stuff on the buffet table they are on. I have plants around them and it probably looks like a jungle to them. They probably would like to get out of that tank and be free.