wow....just plain out freaking WOW!!! as far a the cocotek mat goes....me likey. it's almost like eco-web. and you are right, the possibilities for it are almost endless btw Lynn....i got 2 new friends tonight. 2 RETF's i put them in their quarantine bin before i could take pics (my phone died). i saw them at petco. the only 2 they had. i'm guessing had left, because they were marked down from $59.99 to $19.99. and they appear to both be sub-adult to adult. they are around 3". they are going to go into my white's old enclosure. he got a new smaller home today since i ransacked his home last night and re did it. i got him a smaller home since a 60g tank was a bit large for one frog