Biiiig poop!?!

[Silverspring47]

My bfs frog poops HUGE poops, that get stuck...eventually he passes em, but they r like double the size of the little guy!!! Is he ok??? Fed too much? I said he needs to gut load his crickets, but he's convinced the crappy idiot reptile store has the gut loaded on cricket feed already. I doubt that since they suck as a store!!! What do u guys think?????? These things r massive and can't even be uhhh pulled out (he tried to break it free, didnt work)
Thx

[GrifTheGreat]

My bfs frog poops HUGE poops, that get stuck...eventually he passes em, but they r like double the size of the little guy!!! Is he ok??? Fed too much? I said he needs to gut load his crickets, but he's convinced the crappy idiot reptile store has the gut loaded on cricket feed already. I doubt that since they suck as a store!!! What do u guys think?????? These things r massive and can't even be uhhh pulled out (he tried to break it free, didnt work)
Thx

Don't pull on them. You could cause a prolapse. Its not unusual for them to have really large poop when they wait too long to go. He needs to gut load the crickets and also try earthworms or night crawlers. With the worms he will need to cut appropriately sizes pieces off starting at the tail. The size of the chunk should be not much longer than the distance between the frog's eyes.

How big is the frog?

[Silverspring47]

Thanks! The frog is about....an inch n a half ...just a wee lil guy...he poops the same length of his body!!! Like WTF!?! Lol I heard they r all mouth n stomach....apparently colon too!

[GrifTheGreat]

Thanks! The frog is about....an inch n a half ...just a wee lil guy...he poops the same length of his body!!! Like WTF!?! Lol I heard they r all mouth n stomach....apparently colon too!

Ok. crickets should also not be larger than the distance between the frog's eyes.

[Maharg]

Ok. crickets should also not be larger than the distance between the frog's eyes.

Thats true with Pacmans? I know thats what they say to do with Geckos but Paans are built to eat larger items. The distance between the eyes is only about a qaurter the size of a pacmans mouth! I was looking at a post that was made on this forum a while back regarding the stomach content of a pacman. Something like 85%was large prey items. (Amphibians, mammals) Small insects made up a very small percentage of their natural diet

[Ra]

Thats true with Pacmans? I know thats what they say to do with Geckos but Paans are built to eat larger items. The distance between the eyes is only about a qaurter the size of a pacmans mouth! I was looking at a post that was made on this forum a while back regarding the stomach content of a pacman. Something like 85%was large prey items. (Amphibians, mammals) Small insects made up a very small percentage of their natural diet

No, I don't think it's true for Pacman's, it's a generalized rule taken from lizard keeping that just doesn't apply to Pacmasn frogs. "Horned Frogs" by Phillipe De Vosjoli, who played an important role in the establishment of the Horned Frog in the pet trade, suggests "prey length equal to the width of the frog's mouth" in regard to feeding fish. "Froglets up to 2 inches...three week old crickets every one to two days." three week old crickets are 3/8 inch give or take. the same size is suggested for 2 to 4 inch froglets, which can also eat prekilled pinkies and supplemented superworms, which have far less chitin than regular mealworms, though they should not be fed as a staple (variety in any diet is always better). Adults can eat fully grown crickets, which are 1 inch or so.
So when feeding nightcrawlers in "sections" you can cut the piece to be the width of the frogs mouth, not the space between its eyes.

Yes, it is true that a large portion of their wild diet would be vertebrate prey of various types, so insect diets require calcium supplementation on a regular basis. Regular feeding of mice can lead to health problems, and if you use feeder fish, its better to breed your own as feeder red minnows and goldfish present disease risks and their tanks are highly medicated which may harm the frog.

[GrifTheGreat]

No, I don't think it's true for Pacman's, it's a generalized rule taken from lizard keeping that just doesn't apply to Pacmasn frogs. "Horned Frogs" by Phillipe De Vosjoli, who played an important role in the establishment of the Horned Frog in the pet trade, suggests "prey length equal to the width of the frog's mouth" in regard to feeding fish. "Froglets up to 2 inches...three week old crickets every one to two days." three week old crickets are 3/8 inch give or take. the same size is suggested for 2 to 4 inch froglets, which can also eat prekilled pinkies and supplemented superworms, which have far less chitin than regular mealworms, though they should not be fed as a staple (variety in any diet is always better). Adults can eat fully grown crickets, which are 1 inch or so.
So when feeding nightcrawlers in "sections" you can cut the piece to be the width of the frogs mouth, not the space between its eyes.

Yes, it is true that a large portion of their wild diet would be vertebrate prey of various types, so insect diets require calcium supplementation on a regular basis. Regular feeding of mice can lead to health problems, and if you use feeder fish, its better to breed your own as feeder red minnows and goldfish present disease risks and their tanks are highly medicated which may harm the frog.

J suggest New frog owners to use the distance between the eyes rule to help prevent a prolapse. Large cricket heads are like mealworm chitin and cannot be digested which can cause impaction in small frogs sometimes leading to a prolapse. Playing it safe is better than offering large prey items and the frog suffering for it. I've seen it quite a few times.

[Namio]

Thats true with Pacmans? I know thats what they say to do with Geckos but Paans are built to eat larger items. The distance between the eyes is only about a qaurter the size of a pacmans mouth! I was looking at a post that was made on this forum a while back regarding the stomach content of a pacman. Something like 85%was large prey items. (Amphibians, mammals) Small insects made up a very small percentage of their natural diet

Hi there, I think the post you were referring to was the one I posted about the natural diet of Surinam horned frog, Ceratophrys cornuta, which I believe that particular species eats more vertebrate prey than most other members of the same genus.

Soft-bodied insects (crickets) and earthworms with supplement dusting can make an appropriate and staple diet for ornate, cranwelli, and other common horned frogs on the market.

[Ra]

Hi there, I think the post you were referring to was the one I posted about the natural diet of Surinam horned frog, Ceratophrys cornuta, which I believe that particular species eats more vertebrate prey than most other members of the same genus.

Soft-bodied insects (crickets) and earthworms with supplement dusting can make an appropriate and staple diet for ornate, cranwelli, and other common horned frogs on the market.

Field reports have started to show that most Horned Frogs eat other frogs in the wild, with one report describing a female Cranwelli eating two different species of frog with 10 minutes while the female was amplexed by a male, they then went off into the pond to breed. I'm fairly certain these larged mouthed frogs will eat anything that moves in the wild, but most commonly other frogs.