Ill White's

[Lixra]

The weekend of the 23rd, I went to the Doncaster Reptile Expo and purchased a trio of White's from a well respected breeder. Within 24 hours noticed one of them not moving much, had constricted pupils, and was refusing food. After some time would just go limp and not move at all. Within 48 hours of getting him home, he passed away.

The other two frogs seemed fine, lively and active, both eating. One of them has not been eating for the past few days, and today noticed the same behavior the other frog had before passing away.

I've spoken to a friend of mine who has kept White's for years, and she suggested posting something here for any other advice. I had spoken to the breeder when the first one went ill, and he was unsure of what it could be.

Temperatures are 28 C (82.4 F) heated with a heat pad controlled by a stat
Misting with bottled water (never tap water)
Eco Earth Substrate

These are some pics I took of him this morning.





The other frog has been moved into a viv by himself, which is what I did with the other two when I noticed the first one go ill. I housed them together originally, as they were all kept together at the breeder's.

Any advice is appreciated.

[Bolisnide]

I'm sorry to hear of your frog's passing
For the remainder frogs:
Get some unflavored pedialyte and make a bath for your little babe. 1 part pedialyte to 10 parts treated tap water or 100% spring water.
Be sure water is luke warm, not too cold nor too hot. bathe him for about 10-15 mins and then bathe him in a plain water bath to rinse him. I have found a small tupper ware like container with a lid works great for baths. drill holes into the lid, then file down any rough and sharp points. this will keep him in the bath.
This should help get some nutrients and electrolytes into him and enough energy to start hunting and eating again. If this doesn't work, I would say a vet is in order.
A fecal test should probably be done also to check for parasites.
Good luck

Edit: be sure water is chin high, no higher, to prevent drowning

[Lixra]

Thanks I'll try the pedialyte bath, we don't have that over here in the UK, but I've used a similar product in a gecko slurry.

I've posted this on a reptile forum in the UK I'm a member on and have found out I'm not the only one that's having this issue. Another member there who also purchased a trio from the same breeder has two ill frogs with the exact same symptoms

When I emailed the breeder about the first one passing after 48 hours the response I got was pretty much "oh well". So not too happy at the moment

[HerpDerp]

I surprised the breeder doesn't guarantee the frogs for a set amount of time. I hope you can figure out what's going on :/

[Lixra]

Make that three people now including me... sad thing is, this breeder is a moderator on the Amphibian section of this forum and hasn't posted on any of our threads. I've sent another email and PM on the site.

And little Kryten passed away during the night

Only got Rimmer left now, who seems to be fine. Hopefully, whatever affected the others he didn't get.

[Rae]

I'm so sorry for your loss :/