Wikipedia error or not? (Pacman size)

[GrifTheGreat]

So it's pretty safe to say that if your buying a pacman for size (I'm in to big amphibians. It's just my thing) on average there won't be much difference between say a Fantasy and Ornata?

On average no, but if you like large Amphibians a Giant African Bullfrog would be largest in the trade.

[Maharg]

Oh yea I already have one of those. And a rococo lol. Just looking to add a pacman.

[lorenjas]

Not sure how you feel about toads, but maybe consider adding a cane toad? They can reach 12 inches! Lol sounds kinda cool to me

Ive got a 9month old female oranate who just passed the 4in mark, Ive been feedin her primarily samurai Pacman food and it's really helped with fast growth. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she will be over 6in. (praying for 8! Lol)

[GrifTheGreat]

Not sure how you feel about toads, but maybe consider adding a cane toad? They can reach 12 inches! Lol sounds kinda cool to me

Ive got a 9month old female oranate who just passed the 4in mark, Ive been feedin her primarily samurai Pacman food and it's really helped with fast growth. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she will be over 6in. (praying for 8! Lol)

8" Is good if you aren't planning on breeding her Lol! She will eat the males.

[lorenjas]

Grif, you mean because she will likely be about double the size of the males she will eat them for sure? :/
I definitely agree it raises the risks, but I was hoping keeping her very well fed before breeding would mitigate that issue,
for example, feeding her a fuzzy or two so she was literally too full to even consider eating a male lol.

It would be a shame to have to stunt her growth for breeding.. But considering how she's almost a fully red samurai from Japan.. I may have to do that

[GrifTheGreat]

Grif, you mean because she will likely be about double the size of the males she will eat them for sure? :/
I definitely agree it raises the risks, but I was hoping keeping her very well fed before breeding would mitigate that issue,
for example, feeding her a fuzzy or two so she was literally too full to even consider eating a male lol.

It would be a shame to have to stunt her growth for breeding.. But considering how she's almost a fully red samurai from Japan.. I may have to do that

Large females are good for high egg counts, but if you don't have a large male he may become a meal for the frog no matter if you Fed her or not. Ornates especially are well known for their appetite and will continue to eat even when near full most of the time. I myself haven't begun to breed yet, but I'm speaking from others experiences and even a 6" female can and will eat smaller males.

This is best answered by Mike since he has bred Ornates in the last year and his experiences could be vital in helping you, but don't be disappointed in the answer isn't what you want to hear.

[lorenjas]

Haha eatin even when near full.. True enough this is a reason she's grown so big, I guess maybe I would have to babysit them while they breed? Hope someone watching doesn't give them performance anxiety lol (bad joke)
High egg counts seem like a definite plus. I guess my best bet would be to match her with a large male, or even possibly not let her reach 8in. Don't worry Grif, I can handle it if her being a tad smaller is what would ultimately be best. I can always raise one of her young purely for size and keep her and a couple other offspring for breeding
(note I don't mean interbreeding, just keeping for later breeding projects)

[Ra]

On average no, but if you like large Amphibians a Giant African Bullfrog would be largest in the trade.

On average I would say yes. A female Fantasy Frog is going to be considerably smaller than a female Ornate, but a male Ornate may be similar in size to a female Fantasy when full grown.