hi all finally got my two greys wasnt the ones i first went to get these our a lil older they our in a self made encloser with mesh top and glasss front with solid wood sides, its 12 and 1/2 inches wide by 14 inches deep by 16 an a 1/2 inches tall, they seem to love it moving about only collected them yesterday, soon as the light went out at night time they climbed all the way to the top,
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