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Can anyone tell me what this black substrate is?
Love this video but I'm always curious when I watch it.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Can anyone tell me what this black substrate is?
Love this video but I'm always curious when I watch it.
It's a foam substrate.
Its a filter foam that is used for fish tank filters. I've been trying to find it in bulk but I can't. Its much better than substrate.
Mike, what are the benefits?
In what way is that a better substrate?
It does not allow the frog to sit in urine or feces.
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Makes sense. Is it a certain type of foam? Where can you get it?
hey are few places mike Bulk Filter Media, Matala, Poly Flo, Pond USA .com, Pond, Fountain & Water Garden Supplies and Trim-To-Fit Filters - Filters - Grainger Industrial Supply i know the secound one says hvac but i cut the black one down and use in my hob fliters it works great i have to buy bulk i have 10+ fish tanks
As a breeder with 120 plus frogs its too costly to change out bedding every week. If you have only a few frogs keep them the natural way. Keeping them on the foam cuts down my cleaning time by 8 hours a week.
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Not to really defend keeping animals this way, but do animals really think of life in a sense where they can be happy? Or do they just think in survival-ability? Meaning that they eat, drink, have a safe place from predators, and if/when the time comes, they can mate properly to pass on their genetics. I know that there are animals such as Elephants and Bison that have shown "emotion" when it comes to their dead and family, but are they showing emotion or just hanging around until they realize that the animal is no longer going to get up? I feel that there are many opinions on this matter, both expert and amateur. To each their own opinion as long as the animals are cared for properly and with utmost regard. Sorry to heat it up again, if I did.
Despite what some people believe animals do have emotions although not as dramatic as ours, but similar. When a dogs brother or sister dies and the sibling stops eating and starves itself to death or a Morning Dove loses its mate and sits next to the corpse of its life mate even when faced with imminent danger is sadness. They recognize and feel lose as do we. They feel happiness, but its not shown like a human emotion, but in their own way just as when they lose their young and feel the need to sacrifice themselves to protect the next generation. Those are not just empty instincts. Survival is number one, but many will give their life so that their young will live and I don't think that its only so that the species will survive or that the next generation is passed on, but from a primitive emotion.
Thank you kira! That's what I was looking for =)
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The foam is the cleanest and only safe substrate that you can use. The coco fiber and other products are not guarenteed to be 100% safe. I bought a bag of peat moss the other day and a fence lizard baby was in the bag alive. The filters can be washed and used again.
As far as the happiness that depends really on the animals health. We may think they are happy or not but we will never really know. We can't ask them.
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A few breeders use this Filter Medium as substrate with great success. As for asking if they're happy, well a Pacman that stops eating, looks ill and listless is a sure sign of an unhappy frog. Stress is what mainly causes their unhappiness. Pacman Frogs are EXTREMELY susceptible to Toxing Out Syndrome caused by either chemicals in their water, stagnant right water, or their own waste. Ammonia buildup in water as well as other substrates from the lack of cleaning. This is why Eco Earth must be changed no less than once a month with some exception to an enclosure with a drainage layer. Even in a self sufficient Vivarium these particular species do not do well because the isopods, plants, etc cannot break down all the urine and feces made by the frog and thus bacteria, fungus, and ammonia begin to buildup in the enclosure which in turn can kill the frog.
This is not at all an uncommon substrate to be used and is perfectly fine for those who do not have time to clean over 100 frogs like Mike. There are a few other ease of cleaning substrate alternatives too. Most work fine and absolutely no substrate is 100% safe. There could be anything in or on whatever substrate you choose. Accidents happen and it could be very well possible to get some of this filter medium that's been contaminated and thus poisoning the frog. There is no way to know for sure. Is it unlikely? Yes, but can happen in what could be considered the best and safest substrate out there.
Comparing this substrate to chicken farm cages is a little over the top. I understand what you're saying, but it is not the same. When born in captivity the become accustomed to however you house them whether it be on dirt simulated substrates or just a foam rubber. Its when you suddenly change their environment that they become unhappy or stressed. Yes they live to burrow and it is instinctualy programmed into their brain, but they are also able to adapt which is also and instinct that nearly all CB frogs utilize.
Keep that in mind before saying that its not a healthy HAPPY way to keep the frog.
i am glad to help mike i love the pac mans
earthtiger..........come visit our frogs and see how healthy & happy they are..........I would pit them against anyone's frogs in that regard. We also use the filter foam as a substrate and mike is absolutely correct in that it elevates the frogs so that they are not sitting in their own waste absorbing toxins. And sorry, but when you have over 50 breeders & holdbacks, yes money IS a concern. The frogs are fed very well and kept clean. There is ZERO chance of impactions. You don't like it, by all means avoid it.
Ivory glad you posted. It reminded me to ask you... Can you take a pic of the chin or tell me if your baby cornuta have solid dark chins or if they have not darkened yet at their size. I have two greens that look exactly like the solid green cornutas I've seen. Not sure if they are fantasys or not.
that could be why my Pac is so stressed, at the store he was in a tank of 90% water and had a little rock landing, i didnt want to have to go thru the trouble of keeping up with the water i.e. filtering, cleaning, etc. so he's in the total opposite now, 90% land with a water dish, im guessin its too much of a change for him. Thanx for bringin that up Grif.
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