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    Default Re: I think my frog has Chytrid, what can I do?

    Raising the temperature that high for 8 days will stress your frog out, and it will need extra special care in recovery, but it wont kill it. Just make sure the tank doesnt dry out at all. Keep the humidity high
    Chytrid on the other hand, will definately kill your frog.

    I would say just go to a vet. If not, then you have to risk taking a **** shoot and your frog dies anyway, or you get lucky and he gets better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra View Post
    Raising the temperature that high for 8 days will stress your frog out, and it will need extra special care in recovery, but it wont kill it. Just make sure the tank doesnt dry out at all. Keep the humidity high
    Chytrid on the other hand, will definately kill your frog.

    I would say just go to a vet. If not, then you have to risk taking a **** shoot and your frog dies anyway, or you get lucky and he gets better.
    Agreed. Heat stress is extremely dangerous. Kidney Failure is usually the result of prolonged exposure to temps that are much too high. It is advised to never perform the heat treatment on frogs because they can't handle it and WILL die. There are very few amphibians that can survive this treatment and those are Salamanders, but not all salamanders will survive it either.

    Your best shot is to try and get a vet to prescribe the Lamisil AT. It must be a spray and not a cream.

    When you get the Lamisil AT make a Luke warm bath of de-chlorinated water 200 millilieters and spray ten pumps into the water soak the frog in this solution for 5 minutes per day for 10 days. While the treatment is being performed over these 10 days the frog must be in a hospital setup with nothing but moist paper towels as substrate and a water dish. You can provide hides for security, but they must be easily cleaned so plastic hides would be preferable or fake plants. Everyday while the frog is soaking clean and disinfect the hospital setup and replace the moist paper towels with new ones. YOU MUST PERFORM THESE DUTIES EVERYDAY FOR THE ENTIRE 10 DAYS.

    Please note that this treatment is highly stressful on the frog, but does work and eliminates Chytrid fungus. You must throw everything away that your frog has come into contact with prior to treatment. incinerating any furniture, fake plants, hides, substrate, etc. This helps to prevent future infection from the fungus. Also note that there is no proof that this treatment is sideaffect free so keep a close eye on your frog while treating it.

    Keep us posted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    You must throw everything away that your frog has come into contact with prior to treatment. incinerating any furniture, fake plants, hides, substrate, etc. This helps to prevent future infection from the fungus. Also note that there is no proof that this treatment is sideaffect free so keep a close eye on your frog while treating it.
    Hey Grif actually it's not necessary to throw away the plastic decor in the cage, since they usually cost people quite a few bucks I would just soak them in 1:10 diluted bleach solution for 30 minutes then complete drying will get rid of any chytrid left attaching to the decor. Substrate I will most definitely discard no questions asked. EcoEarth is cheap enough to replace.


    Heat stress is extremely dangerous. Kidney Failure is usually the result of prolonged exposure to temps that are much too high. It is advised to never perform the heat treatment on frogs because they can't handle it and WILL die.
    By the way, I would like to clarify that 30 degree C is about 88 F, which actually probably won't cause heat stress in horned frogs if exposed about a week. Fortunately that these frogs are from warmer area of the world which are able to handle higher temp better than say frogs from the temperate zone.

    Your best shot is to try and get a vet to prescribe the Lamisil AT. It must be a spray and not a cream.

    When you get the Lamisil AT make a Luke warm bath of de-chlorinated water 200 millilieters and spray ten pumps into the water soak the frog in this solution for 5 minutes per day for 10 days. While the treatment is being performed over these 10 days the frog must be in a hospital setup with nothing but moist paper towels as substrate and a water dish. You can provide hides for security, but they must be easily cleaned so plastic hides would be preferable or fake plants. Everyday while the frog is soaking clean and disinfect the hospital setup and replace the moist paper towels with new ones. YOU MUST PERFORM THESE DUTIES EVERYDAY FOR THE ENTIRE 10 DAYS.
    casta, I would do what Grif had recommended. Get a prescription of Lamisil AT asap and perform the treatment to your frog immediately.

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    I wanted to say thank you to everyone who posted. I'm going to follow this advice and hopefully he will pull through.

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    Namio it is recommended to not use bleach on plastics. That's why you throw them away. I've read this many times.

    88° For a prolonged period can be extremely detrimental and the temp that kills Chytrid is 90° for 6 hours straight which will kill the frog. What you're not realizing is that they may be from these hot areas, BUT they thermoregulate by burrowing down deep into the moist cool soil so they are never truly exposed to these temps for any prolonged period.


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    their micro niche in the enviroment is typically not as hot as the rest of the jungle. Consider the air temperatures on a hot day on the street as opposed to being in the forest, or a parking ramp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra View Post
    their micro niche in the enviroment is typically not as hot as the rest of the jungle. Consider the air temperatures on a hot day on the street as opposed to being in the forest, or a parking ramp.
    Exactly!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Namio it is recommended to not use bleach on plastics. That's why you throw them away. I've read this many times.
    Thanks for the warning. Bleach do tend to destroy things, but if that's the case then complete desiccation or drying of the plastic decor will kill chytrid just fine. Chytrid, despite being a virulent pathogen, is actually quite wimpy. Complete drying for a few days will kill it. No chance.

    88° For a prolonged period can be extremely detrimental and the temp that kills Chytrid is 90° for 6 hours straight which will kill the frog. What you're not realizing is that they may be from these hot areas, BUT they thermoregulate by burrowing down deep into the moist cool soil so they are never truly exposed to these temps for any prolonged period
    I hate to be defensive but I said to increase temperature to stunt chytrid growth while seeking treatment, not to use heat treatment to cure chytrid. Chytrid grows fastest under 25 C and the frog may die before casta even got lamasil AT. My bad on the rough estimation of temperature conversion, 30 degree C is actually 86 F. Chytrid growth stops at 29 degree C and any temperature above will kill it, just higher the temperature, the faster chytrid dies. It does not necessarily have to be 90 F for 6 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namio View Post
    Thanks for the warning. Bleach do tend to destroy things, but if that's the case then complete desiccation or drying of the plastic decor will kill chytrid just fine. Chytrid, despite being a virulent pathogen, is actually quite wimpy. Complete drying for a few days will kill it. No chance.



    I hate to be defensive but I said to increase temperature to stunt chytrid growth while seeking treatment, not to use heat treatment to cure chytrid. Chytrid grows fastest under 25 C and the frog may die before casta even got lamasil AT. My bad on the rough estimation of temperature conversion, 30 degree C is actually 86 F. Chytrid growth stops at 29 degree C and any temperature above will kill it, just higher the temperature, the faster chytrid dies. It does not necessarily have to be 90 F for 6 hours.
    Not true and not worth the risk. Drying plastic is not going to kill it. Spores go into a sort of dormancy period when dry and just because it it stops growing doesn't mean it will die off. Fungal spores can still remain dormant. Doesn't take long for them to begin to grow when conditions are right. 90° Is the proven temp that Chytrid dies at and the duration is 6 hours. I'm not going to go any further into it since it is starting a little conflict that makes you feel you need to defend your post. Ill just leave it at that.


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