New member of "Pac" and my pacman setup pics

[Pluke]

Haha, yah. I just threw that in because some people, surely not the people here on these forums, but SOME people would think I'm crazy for looking at a frog and thinking it has personality. Some people just don't feel it/see it.

[GrifTheGreat]

Well, there is no scientific proof of them having any higher levels of brain function. They eat, sleep, and poop. This is why you will find that some people get very up in arms about anthropomorphism (giving human characteristics to an animal). The arguments get very heated, and that's not what I am trying to start. BUT from my own personal observation they each behave differently. They have different behavior patterns. They each have different "personalities." I can spend hours watching them because they are so fascinating! I love every one of my frogs!

On a different note, when your new frog does poop check for any signs of parasites. Chances are that if he/she was kept in such poor conditions he/she may have picked up parasites. Be on the lookout just in case. Keep us posted.

[Pluke]

Well, I just gave him another honey bath and now he's sitting in his water bowl in the tank. I'm noticing no difference in his appearance, as far as the lumps go. Before I got his honey bath ready I felt his left side a little bit to see if the bump's hardness has changed at all and he seemed really irritated when I touched it and then he opened his mouth for a second.. after I took my hand away he opened his mouth and looked as if he was pushing and trying to vomit something out.. How can this even happen? How could a froglet that's barely the size of a quarter ingest something that would cause him to react like this? He was kept in water down sphagnum, would that cause that bad of an impaction? Could he have been just reacting to me touching him? It didn't seem bothered by it at all before.. I'm hoping he was just thinking I was trying to feed him, which I want to do.. but not until I see some poop.

I'm about to write the guy I got him from a letter of complaint.. wonder how he'll handle that. I bought really healthy tomato froglets from him who are thriving.. but this frog, I just have a bad feeling about it, especially after seeing his other frogs and the condition this one was kept in.

[GrifTheGreat]

Well, I just gave him another honey bath and now he's sitting in his water bowl in the tank. I'm noticing no difference in his appearance, as far as the lumps go. Before I got his honey bath ready I felt his left side a little bit to see if the bump's hardness has changed at all and he seemed really irritated when I touched it and then he opened his mouth for a second.. after I took my hand away he opened his mouth and looked as if he was pushing and trying to vomit something out.. How can this even happen? How could a froglet that's barely the size of a quarter ingest something that would cause him to react like this? He was kept in water down sphagnum, would that cause that bad of an impaction? Could he have been just reacting to me touching him? It didn't seem bothered by it at all before.. I'm hoping he was just thinking I was trying to feed him, which I want to do.. but not until I see some poop.

I'm about to write the guy I got him from a letter of complaint.. wonder how he'll handle that. I bought really healthy tomato froglets from him who are thriving.. but this frog, I just have a bad feeling about it, especially after seeing his other frogs and the condition this one was kept in.

A froglet is really susceptible to impaction because nearly anything the ingest is too large to pass through their bowels if it is unable to be broken down. A severe impaction can cause them to try and vomit, but the do yawn with their mouth open really wide sometimes. Also bacterial infections or parasites can cause them to try and vomit. He was housed in disgusting conditions and is more than likely impacted and possibly sick.

Buy some Repta-Aid(Repta-Boost) and some Unflavored Pedialyte. Prepare a Pedialyte bath at a 10 to 1 ratio. So for every 10 ounces of water add 1 ounce of unflavored Pedialyte. Add 2 scoops of the Repta-Aid(Repta-Boost) to the Pedialyte bath. Make sure to use De-chlorinated water and that it is Luke warm. stir to dissolve the Repta-Aid(Repta-Boost) in the bath. Just like the honey bath make sure its no deeper than up to his chin. Soak for 20 minutes and be sure to pour a little over his back while he soaks.

Do the same with this bath as the water cools like you do with the honey bath. Make a plain Luke warm de-chlorinated bath to rinse the Repta-Aid(Repta-Boost) off in.

[Pluke]

Alright.. thanks Grif, looks like I'll be heading out to get those things tomorrow. He's back in his tank right now sitting there with his mouth semi-open. He opened it pretty wide for a few seconds while pushing again. It actually looks like the bump on his right side is bigger than the one on his left now. I think there has been SOME change, whether it's good or bad, time has yet to tell. Wish him luck guys. ><

[Pluke]

Well.. bad news. I'm pretty sure he's dead..

Either that or he's gone into complete shock, his eyes aren't responding to light and he's completely limp and lifeless. I swear he was choking on something, trying to push something out but couldn't.. you can see in the third pic of him there is a bump on each side of him and they almost line up like he swallowed a small stick or something.. like I said in my previous post, it had moved a little bit but he was gagging more.. sigh.

[GrifTheGreat]

Well.. bad news. I'm pretty sure he's dead..

Either that or he's gone into complete shock, his eyes aren't responding to light and he's completely limp and lifeless. I swear he was choking on something, trying to push something out but couldn't.. you can see in the third pic of him there is a bump on each side of him and they almost line up like he swallowed a small stick or something.. like I said in my previous post, it had moved a little bit but he was gagging more.. sigh.

He probably ingested the dirty moss in the enclosure that guy was using and not only did it cause an infection, but more than likely caused him to become septic from a bacterial infection from ingesting the soiled rotting moss. Poor guy is more than likely in a better place now. You tried at least.

I'm sorry for your loss.