New member of "Pac" and my pacman setup pics

[Pluke]

Ok guys, I got another pacman froglet at yesterdays reptile show. Just thought I'd share some pictures of him, seeing as I have a few questions anyway.. for clarification.

I believe this is a Cranwelli, but the guy I bought him from was kind of confusing.. I don't think he had a clue of what he was talking about. He said that he hadn't seen a real "Cranwell" in a long time, yet he was selling what I thought to be a Cranwelli, lol. I don't know if I'm wrong or he is, I'm kinda of guessing him. Would you guys say this is a cranwelli?



I'm really happy with this guy and his coloring is great but I'm pretty damn mad about the conditions I got him in. I saw it and chose to buy him, but it didn't seem that bad until I got out in the car and took a closer look on the way home. He was kept on some watered down sphagnum moss, which seems to be the norm when getting these.. BUT.. I don't think it had been changed in quite a while. It stank like OATMEAL and had little maggots crawling around in it and on my frog. It was disgusting, the poor little guy. Not to mention I'm pretty sure he's impacted.. he has a hard lump on each side of his stomach, so I've given him 1 honey soak yesterday after he got home and tonight. No poop yet, I hope everything comes out alright for him. He hasn't moved much in his tank, but he has taken a tiny hornworm from my tongs, which I was happy to see. There were some other pacmans that this guy had that looked in bad condition. Keep in mind, they're all quarter sized, one of these frogs looked like it swallow a damn pea or something, it had a huge lump on it's right side.. I mention to the guy that this particular frog "might" be impacted and he said "Oh i just let them feast because they'll be on the road and won't eat for a week.." ...I was dissapointed but I wasn't about to argue with him, since I'm no expert. I just go by what I've seen on these forums and to me, that frog compares 100% to the frog impaction pics I've seen here. I chose the healthiest looking frog only to find out that he is probably impacted too. -_-

Now here are some pics of my pacman setups, the last of the pics is my tomato frog setup. (yes it needs a background, i just set it up yesterday, it's coming.)

Two five gallons, new frog is on the left and my albino on right. Hornworms on middle shelf, dubia's and crickets on bottom. 10 Gallon on little table to the right.
This is the 10 gallon with my Green Cranwelli.
Close up of the 5 gallons, not a good pic but oh well you get the idea.
My tomato frog tank, homes 3 small silver dollar sized tomato frogs. They are quite active so I upgraded them.

Hope you guys approve of my setups. And tell me what you think about my new guy, thanks!

[GrifTheGreat]

Its a Cranwelli. Those conditions are inexcusable!!! If you believe the little gut is impacted you don't want to feed him anymore until he passes the impaction. Feeding him will make it worse. A good way to do the honey baths is to perform the honey soak and and then prepare a second bath with just Luke warm de-chlorinated water and place the frog in as the honey bath cools. As the second bath cools have his water dish contain Luke warm de-chlorinated water and place him back home in his water dish.

This technique is affective and works well.

Edit; Meaning the conditions that the frog was kept in before you purchased him.

[Pluke]

Thanks grif, that is what I did with the last frog I bought that was impacted and it worked, (s)he used the bathroom within a couple of days after starting the soaks. I won't feed this little guy anymore and I haven't fed him since the hornworm. Maybe the hard lumps I'm feeling on him are actually just food, but I'm not going to take that chance. I'm not feeding him until I find poop. He almost looks kind of pointed on his sides when positioned right. You can actually see it in the third pic of him, the above shot. Both sides have a hard lump.. I'll be keeping a close eye on it.

Other than the complaints of impaction and the disgusting mess he came in.. I'm really happy with this frog, I love it's subtle red and of course he has a personality of it's own.. or maybe it's just my imagination.

[GrifTheGreat]

Thanks grif, that is what I did with the last frog I bought that was impacted and it worked, (s)he used the bathroom within a couple of days after starting the soaks. I won't feed this little guy anymore and I haven't fed him since the hornworm. Maybe the hard lumps I'm feeling on him are actually just food, but I'm not going to take that chance. I'm not feeding him until I find poop. He almost looks kind of pointed on his sides when positioned right. You can actually see it in the third pic of him, the above shot. Both sides have a hard lump.. I'll be keeping a close eye on it.

Other than the complaints of impaction and the disgusting mess he came in.. I'm really happy with this frog, I love it's subtle red and of course he has a personality of it's own.. or maybe it's just my imagination.

Each individual frog does have its own personality. You're not imagining that.

[Pluke]

Haha, yah. I just threw that in because some people, surely not the people here on these forums, but SOME people would think I'm crazy for looking at a frog and thinking it has personality. Some people just don't feel it/see it.

[GrifTheGreat]

Well, there is no scientific proof of them having any higher levels of brain function. They eat, sleep, and poop. This is why you will find that some people get very up in arms about anthropomorphism (giving human characteristics to an animal). The arguments get very heated, and that's not what I am trying to start. BUT from my own personal observation they each behave differently. They have different behavior patterns. They each have different "personalities." I can spend hours watching them because they are so fascinating! I love every one of my frogs!

On a different note, when your new frog does poop check for any signs of parasites. Chances are that if he/she was kept in such poor conditions he/she may have picked up parasites. Be on the lookout just in case. Keep us posted.