Here is a good debate lol

[mikesfrogs]

Here is what was sold as a Fantasy. But looks almost all cornuta.

[GeorgiaBulls]

If I saw it without a label I'd def say it was a cornuta.

[mikesfrogs]

Its throat doesnt have spots but isnt colored all the way in yet.

[GrifTheGreat]

It is defintely gorgeous either way!!

[Namio]

Here is what was sold as a Fantasy. But looks almost all cornuta.

You can tell between a Cornuta and a Fantasy from the substrate that they live on.

A Cornuta you would see forest floor with leaves as substrate. A Fantasy frog you would find it most likely to be on a rug or carpet. So this one is definitely a Fantasy!

[GrifTheGreat]

You can tell between a Cornuta and a Fantasy from the substrate that they live on.

A Cornuta you would see forest floor with leaves as substrate. A Fantasy frog you would find it most likely to be on a rug or carpet. So this one is definitely a Fantasy!

LOL!! I'm not sure where you're going with that description for identifying between the hybrid and true Cornuta Namio.

[lumpbump]

You can tell between a Cornuta and a Fantasy from the substrate that they live on.

A Cornuta you would see forest floor with leaves as substrate. A Fantasy frog you would find it most likely to be on a rug or carpet. So this one is definitely a Fantasy!

Haha this most definately must be a fantasy frog. I read some where they were called fantasy frogs cause they wanted to be human. This guys definately one step closer from the rainforest floor to the human house! Strange choice in carpeting though imo
I like frogs

[mikesfrogs]

Office building carpet. They don't get to stay at home with me. Lol

Haha this most definately must be a fantasy frog. I read some where they were called fantasy frogs cause they wanted to be human. This guys definately one step closer from the rainforest floor to the human house! Strange choice in carpeting though imo
I like frogs

[Pluke]

So how do you tell the difference?

Something with this close of a depiction you would definitely think that some people would breed these with the purpose to sell them as Cornuta.. I love this frog, but that would kind of suck buying a Green Cornuta only to find out later it's a fantasy frog. I don't think this would bother the average person, because the frog is beautiful, but if you were going to try and breed these (as Cornuta) then things might become a little frustrating.

This makes me think of that thread Namio made questioning the breeding problems with F2 Cornuta. Maybe it's because a lot of them aren't Cornuta and they're actually hybrids? Ehh.. Regardless, beautiful frog mike. I would have bought it if I saw it.

[mikesfrogs]

I really can't tell what it is. It has all cornuta features and I've never seen a fantasy that looks this close to a cornuta. Usually I can tell right away that its a fantasy.

[Ra]

Maybe you just arent used to seeing one that looks so green. We'll find out when its older though.

[Ra]

consider the appearance of the second picture here.

For Sale Fantasy Pacmen - Tri-Colors/Orange-Red - Quarter size - Export available - FaunaClassifieds

[GrifTheGreat]

consider the appearance of the second picture here.

For Sale Fantasy Pacmen - Tri-Colors/Orange-Red - Quarter size - Export available - FaunaClassifieds

I can tell all three of those are Fantasy Frogs. It is possible that whoever sold the froglet to Mike didn't know what they had, but to me it looks almost exactly like a Cornuta. Only one other person I know had a Fantasy that looked that close to a Cornuta and that's Bobby Austin(PyxieBob). His was very green with Cornuta Pattern and almost nothing Cranwelli.

[mikesfrogs]

I bought both frogs. They look 99% cornuta. I am keeping them so we will see what they do.

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[Ra]

If they do turn out to be Cornuta, I would like to know their origins and who is breeding green ones. I only ever see the brown CB Cornuta froglets for sale.

[GrifTheGreat]

If they do turn out to be Cornuta, I would like to know their origins and who is breeding green ones. I only ever see the brown CB Cornuta froglets for sale.

Especially if you get to buy a really nice Green Cornuta for the price of a really nice Fantasy right??!!! LOL! I'd go for it.

[Namio]

consider the appearance of the second picture here.

For Sale Fantasy Pacmen - Tri-Colors/Orange-Red - Quarter size - Export available - FaunaClassifieds

Ok, it's time for some serious identifications .
Since you guys are not sold on the ideas of Mike's new fantasy being a real fantasy, I thought you might want to see this: For Sale Green Fantasy Frogs - Cornuta x Cranwelli Hybrids - Quarter size - FaunaClassifieds



Eric Ivin was selling those fantasy frogs and I doubt he would mistake a Cornuta for a fantasy.

I agree, and it is obvious, that this fantasy morph highly resembles a true Cornuta, but they somehow look "funny" to me as Cornuta because there are subtle differences between them. I think this "funny look" resulted from differences in skull shape and structure.

A few differences I saw is that the eye-socket looks rounder in fantasy frogs, and their "hands" are much lighter in color compare to those of Cornuta's hand (although in froglets that difference can be very subtle). The two vertical facial stripes under the nostrils of fantasy are also more Cranwelli-like. The following pictures should help visualize those differences.

Here is a green juvenile Cornuta and a green Cranwelli for comparison. Look at those eye sockets and the color of their hands.


Facial stripes of an orange phase Cornuta and a Cranwelli for comparison


I think it's remarkable how Cornuta's phenotype can just take over Cranwelli's.

[mikesfrogs]

I will grow them and in a few weeks add pics of them probably be easier to tell what they are for sure as they get older. Lol

[GrifTheGreat]

I already said I've seen a Green Fantasy like this one so its not a matter of convincing, BUT if it has a solid dark Brown or black throat then its a Cornuta. Fantasies don't inherit the solid beard or the Cornuta. I do see some darkening of its front feet in the pics too. Also a Cornuta trait that doesn't pass on usually.

[mikesfrogs]

Both throats are dark. Not fully colored in but close to it. Not dots like cranwelli

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