Here is a good debate lol

[mikesfrogs]

Here is what was sold as a Fantasy. But looks almost all cornuta.

[GeorgiaBulls]

If I saw it without a label I'd def say it was a cornuta.

[mikesfrogs]

Its throat doesnt have spots but isnt colored all the way in yet.

[GrifTheGreat]

It is defintely gorgeous either way!!

[Namio]

Here is what was sold as a Fantasy. But looks almost all cornuta.

You can tell between a Cornuta and a Fantasy from the substrate that they live on.

A Cornuta you would see forest floor with leaves as substrate. A Fantasy frog you would find it most likely to be on a rug or carpet. So this one is definitely a Fantasy!

[GrifTheGreat]

You can tell between a Cornuta and a Fantasy from the substrate that they live on.

A Cornuta you would see forest floor with leaves as substrate. A Fantasy frog you would find it most likely to be on a rug or carpet. So this one is definitely a Fantasy!

LOL!! I'm not sure where you're going with that description for identifying between the hybrid and true Cornuta Namio.

[lumpbump]

You can tell between a Cornuta and a Fantasy from the substrate that they live on.

A Cornuta you would see forest floor with leaves as substrate. A Fantasy frog you would find it most likely to be on a rug or carpet. So this one is definitely a Fantasy!

Haha this most definately must be a fantasy frog. I read some where they were called fantasy frogs cause they wanted to be human. This guys definately one step closer from the rainforest floor to the human house! Strange choice in carpeting though imo
I like frogs

[mikesfrogs]

Office building carpet. They don't get to stay at home with me. Lol

Haha this most definately must be a fantasy frog. I read some where they were called fantasy frogs cause they wanted to be human. This guys definately one step closer from the rainforest floor to the human house! Strange choice in carpeting though imo
I like frogs

[Pluke]

So how do you tell the difference?

Something with this close of a depiction you would definitely think that some people would breed these with the purpose to sell them as Cornuta.. I love this frog, but that would kind of suck buying a Green Cornuta only to find out later it's a fantasy frog. I don't think this would bother the average person, because the frog is beautiful, but if you were going to try and breed these (as Cornuta) then things might become a little frustrating.

This makes me think of that thread Namio made questioning the breeding problems with F2 Cornuta. Maybe it's because a lot of them aren't Cornuta and they're actually hybrids? Ehh.. Regardless, beautiful frog mike. I would have bought it if I saw it.

[mikesfrogs]

I really can't tell what it is. It has all cornuta features and I've never seen a fantasy that looks this close to a cornuta. Usually I can tell right away that its a fantasy.

[mikesfrogs]

I bought both frogs. They look 99% cornuta. I am keeping them so we will see what they do.

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[Ra]

If they do turn out to be Cornuta, I would like to know their origins and who is breeding green ones. I only ever see the brown CB Cornuta froglets for sale.

[GrifTheGreat]

If they do turn out to be Cornuta, I would like to know their origins and who is breeding green ones. I only ever see the brown CB Cornuta froglets for sale.

Especially if you get to buy a really nice Green Cornuta for the price of a really nice Fantasy right??!!! LOL! I'd go for it.

[mikesfrogs]

Both throats are dark. Not fully colored in but close to it. Not dots like cranwelli

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[GrifTheGreat]

Both throats are dark. Not fully colored in but close to it. Not dots like cranwelli

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You'll have to see as it grows. If its a fantasy the throat should turn spotty like a Cranwelli.

[Namio]

Both throats are dark. Not fully colored in but close to it. Not dots like cranwelli

You'll have to see as it grows. If its a fantasy the throat should turn spotty like a Cranwelli.

Hmmm... interesting. I'm starting to suspect that throat coloration is not always true (although usually are true) to differentiate fantasy from Cornuta. Perhaps skull structure is a more reliable trait? The interorbital space (the "forehead" between eyes) of Cornuta appears to be more even, as opposed to Cranwelli concaves upward. I wonder how reliable that can be either.

[GrifTheGreat]

Hmmm... interesting. I'm starting to suspect that throat coloration is not always true (although usually are true) to differentiate fantasy from Cornuta. Perhaps skull structure is a more reliable trait? The interorbital space (the "forehead" between eyes) of Cornuta appears to be more even, as opposed to Cranwelli concaves upward. I wonder how reliable that can be either.

Skull structure could be a good indicator, but it all depends on which species the Fantasy frog takes after more. Same can be said about Green Apple Pacmans.

[pacman90]

already kinda went over this with Grif in another post about the thraots but i have a pic of my fantasy and his throat, im tryna clear up the throat topic myself on what to look for but here's my Nom-Nom...sorry its a bit blurry i had to zoom in the cameranow he does have a little Eco Earth on his chin but you can still see how dark his throat is, not sure if this is what u meant by "dark throat" or if thats just his beard i heard some ppl say they have? im just trying to clear this topic up in my head lol

[GrifTheGreat]

Look at the photo of the month on the home page. It is of two Cornutas. You can see that both of them have solid black throats.

Male Cranwellis and Fantasies often have dark spots on their throats. When the males call they get "bruising" on their throats that makes it look darker. But it still won't look solid black or brown like a Cornuta.

[pacman90]

OHHHH ok thnx lol