Pacman food "Just add water"

[Lija]

Lloyd - check other threads, there're a lot of topics about this food.

[never quit]

Thanks Lija: I did a search, and sure enough, there's a lot of information about that food out there. It's interesting that everyone has the same concerns. So I'm thinking a varied diet is the best. To me, that would be nightcrawlers, crickets, pacman food and mice. I'd like to get roaches, but don't know how well they'll go over with the wife. The hornworms seem to be okay too. Have you ever given your frogs goldfish? That could be yet another item....
The problem I'm having is it seems to stress them when I hold a cricket or pinky with forcepts and wave it in front of them...There's a couple of frogs it doesn't bother but the other 3 they just sit there..Then when you drop the worm in front of them and it moves they'll eat it....It just seems they like that "natural motion" of the food item. The pixie just doesn't care, he lunges at anything.

Thanks again
Lloyd

[Namio]

While I think it's a "good" food, I don't think it's the perfect all around food. The package says "you can grow a tadpole to adult frog with this pacman food only. The pacman food contains all necessary nutrients for frogs. No other supplements necessary [sic]." However, as we all know, feeding the whole animal e.g., fish, to a frog would be much more nourishing (because of the micro nutrients of the viscera and the organs) than feeding it a fish fillet. So while the pacman food may be one option, adding a varied diet of insects, worms, fish, an occasional mouse would make for a healthy and happy, not to mention long lived, frog!

The Samurai pacman food is ALL you need to raise a frog. Mikesfrog, who breeds horned frogs, will testify that it's truly a great food source for pacmans, besides that it's on the expensive end of food options.

Like how it's advertised, you don't even need to add other supplements (vitamin and calcium) because it has them all.
While I do agree with you feeding your frog with variety of food items is always good, but honestly samurai pacman food really is all you need. Personally I choose to feed my frogs mostly nightcrawlers (70%), crickets (20%), and pacman food & molly & pinky & beef heart (10%), because it's more fun and economically sound for me than feeding samurai pacman food exclusively.

[never quit]

Thanks Namio: Interesting to hear that a professional breeder gives it a thumbs up. You do bring up an issue I've been going to look into. That is, how cost effective is the food? Now, it cost $ 16.00 for a 4 oz. pack. While that may sound expensive, we first need to determine a cost/feeding. That may be a little difficult because if you feed a variety of food items, they all have different moisture contents. What we need to do is get the analysis of, for instance, a nightcrawler. Let's assume it contains 70% moisture. And 2 of these guys weigh a total of 4.5 grams. if you remove the moisture (70%), the two worms weight is now 1.35 grams. The 4 oz. of pacman food is 113.4 grams. That's the equilvalent of 113.4/1.35 = 84 feedings or 168 nightcrawlers in one $ 16.00 pack of food. That's about ¢.10/worm. So, assuming the moisture content and weight of two nightcrawlers is correct, if you can buy worms for less than 10 cents each, then the worms are a better deal. But that's only for worms, and not crickets, pinkies and beef heart. You would have to do the math for those food items.

Thanks for your reply. I like the idea of beef heart.
Lloyd