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    90°c is a lot I think if there is 90 in all the tank. The frog won't have the possibility to regulate its body temperature, especially in a 12x12x12.
    Temperature should go from 77F (Cool point) to 85F (Hot point) during the day.
    Also, it seems that the light is too strong. That can create stress also.
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    GRABibus is right 90° is way too hot. I believe your heat mat is too large. you should only need a 4 to 8 watt UTH placed on the side of the tank. The bulb you're using isn't good. You shouldn't use Fluorescents or any kind of UVB bulbs. Switch to a UTH for a 5 gallon tank or a 10 gallon tank. Buy a Fluker's 5.5" Clamp Lamp with dimmer switch so you can adjust the amount of heat and light produced by the bulb. You should only use incandescent bulbs no higher than 50 watts. Look into Exo-Terra bulbs. A basking spotlight with concentrated beam for day and a Heat Glo Infrared for night.

    Day temps should never exceed 85° and not go below 80° Until night. Night temps should range from 75° to 79°, but you'll want to hover around 78°.

    Humidity should be 80%.

    The position of you're temp and humidity gauges should be positioned in the dead center of the back wall 1.5" to 2" above the substrate. This will provide a more accurate ambient air and humidity reading.

    Try these changes immediately and keep us posted.


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    Ok,
    This is so frustrating - no matter how much I thought i had researched it all counts for nothing in the end.
    I am very concerned now - I tore the heat mat off the side and took the Repti Glo off the canopy. I will use another spare night heat bulb in place of the Repti Glo as it is not bright and produces just as much heat. I have a 8 watt heat mat fortunately and will stick that onto the side in place of the one I had before...Though the clamp will have to wait until next pay day. I hope this will do - I know the heat will be reduced drasticaly by the removal of the heat mat - hopefully proper temperatures will be maintained by the 2 night lights and the lower wattage heat mat.
    Is there any problem with running 2 night heat lights (blue tube by Exo Terra) during the day? the heat it gives of is just as much as the Exo Terra Repti Glo daytime bulb.
    Do I need a light source for the Pacman or can it share my daylight hours? which is pretty much 12 hours by 12 hours anyway.
    As far as the thermometer and hydrometer go...can I stick them to the fake wall that comes with the glass exo terra? or hollow out a space for them?

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    don't panic and watch temperatures for a day or so. you can stick gauges anywhere, as long as they are on a same level that your pacman is ( just above substrate), i personally hate to stick anything to the foam background but if you want you can. also keep in mind those analog ones can be really off in their readings

    by the way really nice frog, congrats on getting it! reminds me of mine, all there is - a very big mouth and eyes :lol:
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    Hi again,

    well, I have re-positioned the thermometer and hydrometer (then read Lija's comment too late lol). I put an 8 watt heat matt in the place of the 26 watt. I have 2 Night heat lamps (one 15 one 25 Watt) on at the moment. I will have to keep these night heat lamps on 24 hours a day now to keep heat up...is this ok? Can I use my own light cycle (the sun)...it is pretty much a 13 hour cycle.
    @ Lija - It is hard not to panic....I thought I had things sorted before I bought the little guy I dont want to hurt it in any way. Next month I will spring for a better thermometer as well then I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Drippy Smudge View Post
    Hi again,

    well, I have re-positioned the thermometer and hydrometer (then read Lija's comment too late lol). I put an 8 watt heat matt in the place of the 26 watt. I have 2 Night heat lamps (one 15 one 25 Watt) on at the moment. I will have to keep these night heat lamps on 24 hours a day now to keep heat up...is this ok? Can I use my own light cycle (the sun)...it is pretty much a 13 hour cycle.
    @ Lija - It is hard not to panic....I thought I had things sorted before I bought the little guy I dont want to hurt it in any way. Next month I will spring for a better thermometer as well then I guess.
    Moonlight bulbs will affect the day/night cycle. If they were infrared there would be no issue, but the blue hue is meant to represent moonlight which may confuse the frog causing stress. As long as the day temp stays at 80° or above during the day you should be fine.

    If the light hood assist in holding heat and humidity in then that's a plus and will hold some heat in with the lights off but you're going to want to find a way to create a 12 hour day/night cycle. if the blue tubes are bright there will be an issue. If the room is well lit the frog will know the difference between day and night, but never keep the enclosure near Windows or air vents. Not even doors that lead outdid so there are no drafts. Being near a window with the Sun shining in could cook the frog as well due to heat buildup inside the tank.


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    the blue hue is all but invisible - It says "for easy night time viewing" but It makes no difference at all. I have checked and there are no drafts or direct sunlight. Thankfully none of those are an issue. The blue is not visible at all in the day time - they simply become heat lamps.
    It matters not anyway - I have just made a load of cover from a spare fake plant I had. I am using a 2.0 light now - with all the cover it really is perfect I think - just enough light escape the cover to provide a day time feel. At night that light will go off and I will use a 25 Watt night heat lamp which so far is keeping the temp at a healthy 80F (this will drop - I have set alarm for 0330 to check it, it is now 0050).....I think I may have nailed it!
    I will keep you all posted and let you know how things went in the morning!

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