Sorry, another long post. I'm bored and haven't got my TV service yet. Also, the internet is fiendishly slow. I should have compressed that image before uploading it. Took forever.
Quote Originally Posted by KingCam View Post
I would say they are both bullfrogs, but I agree, it doesn't look like your standard bullfrog.
Yeah bullfrogs and grey tree frogs are almost as common here as geckos, anoles, centipedes (bad way to wake up) and ... cockroaches were in Oahu Hawaii (was stationed there in the Marine Corps). I had considered collecting some of the treefrogs, but opted against it as I have no experience setting up for them (and small + long jump + very flighty could create unique problems). When I was younger, living in northern Illinois, american toads and an unknown species of common frog were frequent guests. As I got older, they all but disappeared. I'm guessing some kind of pollution. Actually it was probably because they dried up a large reservoir, leaving a muddy, crayfish and leech infested creek as the only substantial body of water. Of store-bought amphibs, fire-bellied toads were always my favorite as they tended to survive for quite some time. Picked up an african horned toad a few years back, did lots of research on a proper setup, and when I woke up in the morning it was dead. That's what I get for going through petsmart I guess.. Now that I know a lot more about amphibs, I went into the same petsmart and could tell the poor creatures were not long for this world. I actually picked up my 3 firebellied toads from a petco down here, but they seem to actually have some idea what they're doing, as all the critters looked healthy and active (well the tarantula just cleans its fangs every time I'm in there... maybe it's in its nature or maybe it thinks I look tasty?). Got my golden/lab puppy through petco in one of their third-party adoption events. Haven't seen too many american toads around here (just the two I snatched), but they are most likely in the small forest behind my place. Not keen on going in there again, as the first time I did, I ended up on the business end of one of these: http://www.whatsthatbug.com/wp-conte...os-300x245.jpg Was not a pleasant experience.

If they are both bullfrogs they should be fine together, but they will get quite large and require a significant amount of space.
Space will be addressed after these ladies establish they aren't already dying of something (landlord is responsible for the lawncare, which includes pesticides; good for keeping the crawling hordes at bay, but I'll have to see if it poisoned the hopping ones).

I bred crickets for about 6 months once. It was awful. Stinky SOB's, and they are loud! I hate to tell you this, but bullfrogs eat like PIGS. As adult they'll need a minimum of 24 crickets each per week. Probably more. You're either going to have to maintain a very large cricket colony, or breed roaches. I breed roaches myself, and for something that eats as much as a bullfrog I would have to recommend going with Lobster Roaches (Nauphoeta cinerea) or Red Runners (Blatta lateralis), those are basically the two fastest growing species of roach around. You could also start a Blaptica dubia colony, they are much larger and would be more appropriate for a full grown american bullfrog. They are slower to reproduce, but if you started now you could have lots and lots of them by the time your frogs are big enough to need them.
For now I have them out in my garage. It's separately insulated from the rest of the house (attached garage on brand new unit), and holds whatever temp the last garage door opening brought in. This obviously won't work in winter, but I still don't know if I'm going to succeed with the crickets or not, so time will tell. I'm kind of put off roaches these days, but seeing hundreds of the things going straight-up greek on a vertical surface is a hard image to shake.

A 20 gallon may be fine while they are smaller, but they will outgrow it quickly. As adults you should have them in a minimum of a 45 gallon tank. 60 would be better. They have powerful legs and could hurt themselves running into glass while attempting to maneuver a tank that's too small for them.
20gal is the biggest I could transport at the moment (I drive a Corvette.. not really practical). Currently shopping for a runs-strong/don't-care-about-the-exterior 4x4 truck (winter and moving things larger than a 20gal aquarium). It's too bad, they've got a $1/gal aquarium sale going on right now. For probably the first time ever, petco is cheaper than walmart.

They will devour fish, and anything else big enough to fit in their mouths that moves. They are probably just stressed out. Give them a few days (or a week) to settle in and then they'll probably start eating more.
Makes sense. I'm going to expand their hiding areas. It's kind of spartan right now.

One last word of warning. American bullfrogs are known to carry the fungus Chytrid which is deadly to other amphibians. Be EXTREMELY careful not to contaminate your other frogs with them.
Unless you are really attached to the idea of keeping them I would release them now, sterilize everything they touched, and save yourself a huge headache. Bullfrogs are incredibly messy, require a ton of space, and will eat you out of house and home.
Oh I wash before and after doing anything with any of the habitats. I'm a bit more thorough with the firebellieds though, because of their toxicity. Mostly I wash because my health insurance isn't the best (who knew it could be so expensive for a 26 year old with no tobacco, family history, or pre-existing conditions). I'm sure they are messy, but they can't compare to my puppy. Daily cage cleanings (she would eat the house if I let her mull around while I was gone) and baths because she rolls around in her ... mistakes.