Pacman calling, how early can they start?

[GrifTheGreat]

Usually once they reach 2.5" to 3" they'll attempt to call or around 5.5 month of age. Size and if their are other male Pacs calling usually determine whether they'll start calling or not. The more males calling heard by youngsters they sooner they'll start, but this also differs from frog to frog.

[Pluke]

You think all of the gray tree frogs calling outside could have trigger his calls? I haven't measured him but I don't think the albino is 2.5 yet. I need to get them out for pictures/measurements. I've been meaning too but now that one of them is calling, I think it's a must. I'm hoping it's the albino.. I'd be shocked if it was the Green Apple.

[GrifTheGreat]

You think all of the gray tree frogs calling outside could have trigger his calls? I haven't measured him but I don't think the albino is 2.5 yet. I need to get them out for pictures/measurements. I've been meaning too but now that one of them is calling, I think it's a must. I'm hoping it's the albino.. I'd be shocked if it was the Green Apple.

So would I. As far as I know no one has ever heard a Green Apple call, but that's probably due to most not making it that far in their lives.

[Pluke]

Big photo dump, here's my pacmans. Like I said, I've always kind of thought the Green was a female and that the male was an albino. What do you guys think? That last picture of the albino is probably two weeks old, give or take. All the other pics I took today. Tried to get them from all angles, forgot the overhead shot of the Green.

[GrifTheGreat]

Big photo dump, here's my pacmans. Like I said, I've always kind of thought the Green was a female and that the male was an albino. What do you guys think? That last picture of the albino is probably two weeks old, give or take. All the other pics I took today. Tried to get them from all angles, forgot the overhead shot of the Green.

The Green looks to be male. Check for nuptial pads on his thumbs. 5th pic you can see his vocal sac slightly.

[Pluke]

Ahh alright, thanks Grif. I'll check for those pads, but I have a feeling you're right. I think I've been in denial, haha. It's just growing so fast I thought it might be a female. What do you think about the albino?

[GrifTheGreat]

Ahh alright, thanks Grif. I'll check for those pads, but I have a feeling you're right. I think I've been in denial, haha. It's just growing so fast I thought it might be a female. What do you think about the albino?

Albino looks female to me. If their roughly the same age and size, but the Albino hasn't attempted to call with the Green then that can be an indicator. Most of the time Males will respond to one another.