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    Thank you for your thoughts. I live about 16 km. from the centre of Johannesburg, in a suburb called Rivonia, Sandton. There are a few known, small wetland areas around Johannesburg that support Bullfrogs, but most of these are being threatened by the inevitable development that is going on.

    Are there any other sound recordings of different frog species on Frog Forum? If there are, I would be grateful for a link to them. The mystery continues, but I am enjoying my nameless frog - he was calling as I typed my first post last night.!

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    Recordings of South African frogs are hard to come by outside of South Africa, I'm afraid. However there are several books with accompanying CDs that should be available to you in SA. Vincent Carruthers recently published a book called "South Africa, Frogs and Frogging", which has a CD of the calls of 20 species - a good place to start.
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    Hi and sorry for only replying 3 months later. Where abouts are you situated in Rivonia? I highly doubt it is a bullfrog, there have been very few Bullfrog sightings in Rivonia as it has become too industrial and there is no longer the ideal wet lands to support them. You say it is near a down pipe so I can put my money comfortably on it being either a red toad (Schismaderma carens), olive toad (Bufo garmani ) or guttereal toad (Bufo gutturalis) all species are extremly common in our suburban gardens.

    Does the sound have a bit of a croak to it? Sorry hard to explain but a bullfrogs call is a deep bellow and you would usually not really notice it as a frog and more of a sick cow than a frog.

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    Hi, and thank you so much for your reply - I think that you have solved my query!

    Since my first post, I have decided that the call I hear is definitely not that of a Bullfrog. I have just 'googled' the 3 Toad varities you mentioned, and found a sound clip for the Guttural Toad, and that is EXACTLY what this one in my garden sounds like - it is a loud, hollow, rattling, popping sound.

    A website I found in Cape Town, calls it an 'aggressive invader' and one to get rid of?? I am quite distressed to have one living here! I have lived in Rietfontein Road, Rivonia since 1966 - have always had what I call 'ordinary little, green/brown garden frogs hopping about and calling on Summer evenings, HOWEVER, this Summer there have been no frogs at all. I put it down to the many Hadedas that feed here, and thought they had eaten all the froglets, but could it be that this wretched Toad has eliminated them??

    Thanks again for you input.

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    An aggressive invader?!? Please can you give me that websites address because I want to check on that and give them some hell!!! They are the most common frog in South Africa and anything but an invader.

    But you are correct in saying that there were less this year than before, this has been a concern for many people locally (in South Africa) and internationally as many frog species are threatened with extinction due to habitat destruction, pollution, and chytrid fungus. In South Africa we are - as far as research show - not at a threat of chytrid fungus though we do have many species which are threatened by habitat destruction.

    We in Bryanston and last year there were many males calling but this season it was very quiet, there are a number of factors that can contribute to this but habitat destruction is a major concern.

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    Thanks for the response. I have sent you a PM with the details of the Cape Town website that has an article titled "Help prevent the spread of an aggressive invader, the Guttural Toad".

    In fairness to Cape Town, I think that in their article, they mean that the Guttural Toad has only recently invaded the Constantia area in the Cape, and now poses a threat to their local species of frogs and toads.

    I would still like to know if this species is a good thing to have in my garden or not? They sound a bit scary to me!

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    I have an interest in South African amphibians and your discussion on the guttural toad has caught my eye. I can understand the position of the City of Cape Town on wanting to control a species with the capability of endangering some very unique frogs of the fynbos region. Evidently the toad has successfully invaded Mauritius and Reunion and may very well set up home in the western Cape. I read on the Zandvlei Trust web site that they have a plan to wipe out the toad. This reminds me of the troubles in Australia with the cane toad. Also, isn't Constantia near the Kenilworth Race Course? That is one of the last remaining homes of the critically endangered Micro Frog. I think a call to the authorities would be in order.

    Buck: I really enjoyed your photos on the African Bullfrog! Thanks.
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