Oh no no... I was legit asking if they were a problem because I didn't know. And I meant IF they were a problem I would have to spray all of my house plants... and there are a TON lol. I'm glad to hear they aren't a problem because I know how hard they are to get rid of.
But this morning he was sleeping in his water dish AGAIN! I had to move him out because I was worried about him getting too cold. I stopped using the incandescent bulb so the temp is between 75 and 80 now. But I still haven't seen poop. I fed him again last night and he seemed to have no problems with appetite. I just don't know if I should be worried about this behavior or not? Or am I just being paranoid?
Well, that is strange for sure.... frogs typically soak a lot when they're impacted. Because his appetite is good, I would think that he is probably OK...
Personally, I would recommend you find a herp vet that can test his fecal (when you find one). Find a vet now, so that when your frog does poo, you're ready to go. If you don't have a vet in your area, you can send a sample to Dr. Frye (email and contact info above in Lynn's post). The vet can tell you how to collect the sample, and preserve it until it can be tested.
In the mean time, if you're worried about impaction, you can give him a honey bath. A couple drops of raw honey in some luke warm treated water. If you don't have honey on hand, you can use a little sugar. Soak him for about 15-20 mins. I've found that a small plastic container with a lid (punch holes in the lid and file down any sharp points) works quite well for soaking. He won't be able to jump out.... Just be sure the water is no deeper than his chin.
This will help move things along.
I know my whites eats quite a bit every other day (he's full grown), about 4-7 med to lg crickets. I find poop only about once, sometimes twice per week (a big one).
Another thing to consider, as you're already are aware of, the 10 gal enclosure is way too small. You really need to upgrade as soon as you;re able to. Preferably to something that is about 18 inches tall. He will be much more comfortable.
BTW, what is your humidity at now? He could just be really thirsty.
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The humidity is at 60 if I don't mist for a while but after I mist it will jump to 80 and it stays around 70 or 80% at night. He really does look a bit bloated but then again he may just be a little over weight. I'm not sure how the pet store was feeding him. I can try to get a decent picture tonight to post. Last night when I was feeding him a tiny little ball of what I assume was poop but it wasn't much. So maybe he is trying to poop. How much sugar should I put in the water for him to soak in?
And yes, I know I need a new enclosure. I want to get a 18x18x24 exo-terra. I had originally assumed I was getting a little baby so the 10 gallon would have worked for a little longer, but I get the feeling I'm going to have to upgrade much sooner than anticipated.
You know, now that I'm thinking about it, sugar may be for a prolapse only.... I'm trying to google it now.
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This link is knd of interesting...
FROG MEDICINAL CARE INTESTINAL PROBLEMS OFFERED BY Pollywogs World of Frogs
Maybe just do the honey bath or if unavailable, just plain warm treated water....
I don't know why I thought that sugar may be helpful... I'm sorry about that.
I hope you find some poop soon!
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I can pick up some honey today. No big deal. I actually found that exact page yesterday and read through it. I've decided if I don't see a poop by the end of the week I'll call the pet store and see if they'll pay for a vet visit. So glad for the 15 day guarantee. I just hope they wont want to take him back or something like that!
I'm not a vet or expert, but of all the Whites I have owned, the two that slept in the water dish did show other signs of illness and had to go to the vet. Now, this is purely anecdotal evidence, but my frogs generally don't sleep in water. They are generally alert and awake when soaking in their dish, and during the day are elsewhere in the tank hiding. I'd definitely see if a vet visit is possible, just in case. Good luck with your little guy, he's so lucky to have an attentive owner, because I feel so many of these little ones are sold to die in inexperienced homes that view them all as "easily replaceable."![]()
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