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    It sounds like you got it all figured out, but I wanted to bring up a point for anyone else reading this post in hopes of helping their frog. Frogs will retreat to water bowls also if their tank is infested with mites. Getting in the water will get the annoying, and possibly dangerous mites off. If your frog is sitting in the water bowl all the time look closely. Are there little colored dots moving around all over your frog? All over the substrate? They are probably mites if they are round! (if they are longer in shape they may be springtails. Springtails will go shooting away from you when you get your finger close to them. Mites do not jump)

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    Well I've always seemed to have a problem with little fly looking things in the substrate. I use eco earth and I always thought it was just fungus gnats that sometimes get on plants. Is there a link or something that shows what these mites look like? It's entirely possible that the pothos that I put in the tank has mites since it was in with my pacman before he died. Although it's important to note that I've never actually seen them on the frog. These flies are TINY though like smaller than a fruit fly so I don't know if I would see them on him. He got in the water again this morning after his light was already on (he was awake this time) so I'm a bit concerned about the mite thing. But another weird thing is that the only time he ever stays in his water dish for any amount of time is in the morning. He doesn't really hang out there at night. I just want to make sure everything is perfect for him after what happened to my pacman frog . That was so difficult and sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerpDerp View Post
    Well I've always seemed to have a problem with little fly looking things in the substrate. I use eco earth and I always thought it was just fungus gnats that sometimes get on plants. Is there a link or something that shows what these mites look like? It's entirely possible that the pothos that I put in the tank has mites since it was in with my pacman before he died. Although it's important to note that I've never actually seen them on the frog. These flies are TINY though like smaller than a fruit fly so I don't know if I would see them on him. He got in the water again this morning after his light was already on (he was awake this time) so I'm a bit concerned about the mite thing. But another weird thing is that the only time he ever stays in his water dish for any amount of time is in the morning. He doesn't really hang out there at night. I just want to make sure everything is perfect for him after what happened to my pacman frog . That was so difficult and sad.
    Mites do not turn into flies, so no worries there. I am sure you're dealing with fungus gnats, and they just kinda come with the territory. Hard to get rid of and keep gone.

    If you have a mite infestation you will see them crawling around all over the substrate and probably all over your frog. Run your finger through the substrate and then watch closely with a magnifying glass. If there are mites you will see them. They look like minature spiders with big round butts.

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    I've definitely never seen anything that looks like that. Are fungus gnats really a problem for frogs? I've had them on my plants for months and I refuse to spray for them. They don't really seem to bother anything or bite. They just like to hang out in the plants so why put harmful chemicals in my home? As I said, I have a bird so I have to be careful about that stuff. I'll only try to get rid of them if they're a problem. Otherwise, I'll consider them part of an ecosystem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerpDerp View Post
    Are fungus gnats really a problem for frogs? I've had them on my plants for months and I refuse to spray for them. They don't really seem to bother anything or bite.
    No. I never said they were?

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    They just like to hang out in the plants so why put harmful chemicals in my home? As I said, I have a bird so I have to be careful about that stuff. I'll only try to get rid of them if they're a problem. Otherwise, I'll consider them part of an ecosystem!
    I never suggested using harmful chemicals. They would kill your frog. Your frog is more sensitive to chemicals than your bird, I can guarantee you that.

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    Oh no no... I was legit asking if they were a problem because I didn't know. And I meant IF they were a problem I would have to spray all of my house plants... and there are a TON lol. I'm glad to hear they aren't a problem because I know how hard they are to get rid of.

    But this morning he was sleeping in his water dish AGAIN! I had to move him out because I was worried about him getting too cold. I stopped using the incandescent bulb so the temp is between 75 and 80 now. But I still haven't seen poop. I fed him again last night and he seemed to have no problems with appetite. I just don't know if I should be worried about this behavior or not? Or am I just being paranoid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerpDerp View Post
    But this morning he was sleeping in his water dish AGAIN! I had to move him out because I was worried about him getting too cold. I stopped using the incandescent bulb so the temp is between 75 and 80 now. But I still haven't seen poop. I fed him again last night and he seemed to have no problems with appetite. I just don't know if I should be worried about this behavior or not? Or am I just being paranoid?
    Well, that is strange for sure.... frogs typically soak a lot when they're impacted. Because his appetite is good, I would think that he is probably OK...
    Personally, I would recommend you find a herp vet that can test his fecal (when you find one). Find a vet now, so that when your frog does poo, you're ready to go. If you don't have a vet in your area, you can send a sample to Dr. Frye (email and contact info above in Lynn's post). The vet can tell you how to collect the sample, and preserve it until it can be tested.
    In the mean time, if you're worried about impaction, you can give him a honey bath. A couple drops of raw honey in some luke warm treated water. If you don't have honey on hand, you can use a little sugar. Soak him for about 15-20 mins. I've found that a small plastic container with a lid (punch holes in the lid and file down any sharp points) works quite well for soaking. He won't be able to jump out.... Just be sure the water is no deeper than his chin.
    This will help move things along.

    I know my whites eats quite a bit every other day (he's full grown), about 4-7 med to lg crickets. I find poop only about once, sometimes twice per week (a big one).

    Another thing to consider, as you're already are aware of, the 10 gal enclosure is way too small. You really need to upgrade as soon as you;re able to. Preferably to something that is about 18 inches tall. He will be much more comfortable.

    BTW, what is your humidity at now? He could just be really thirsty.
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