what would happen if you feed a black widow, or any spider to your frog?

[lovenokia]

The frog would not necessarily die. They eat spiders, ants, snakes if they are small enough, and many other foods that are dangerous if you're bitten, but normally would do no harm if eaten. Now you can't quote me on this because the strength of the toxin like Jess said plays a serious roll in whether ingesting it is fatal or not. Just because the bite is venomous doesn't mean if the entire animal or spider is eating will be fatal ,but its not worth the potential risk. even if it doesn't kill the frog it can quite possibly make the frog ill. I have heard of Wild Ceratophrys Cornuta having scorpions and stinging ants in their stomachs. Even so its not a thought that has crossed my mind since a Black Widow is not an actual food item that you can aquire as a feeder nor would you want to try and catch one.

Now I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this was something you've seen on YouTube or torture tube as most of us would call it. I have seen a particular video with this specific spider being offered to a Pyxie Frog. Obviously this video was made by a very irresponsible owner who has a total lack of common sense and disregard for their frog's life. Don't ever take those videos on YouTube as being a good credible source of information even though there are many that are good the majority are just garbage and for nothing but a laugh or hits at the expense of the frog's life.

Keep that in mind.

Thanks, do you know how poisonous dart frogs are poisonous then? Like I sad in my earlier post, it is from the food that they want in the rain forest. Frogs have been are around for over 250 million years, so it shows how resilient of creatures that they are.



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[GrifTheGreat]

Thanks, do you know how poisonous dart frogs are poisonous then? Like I sad in my earlier post, it is from the food that they want in the rain forest. Frogs have been are around for over 250 million years, so it shows how resilient of creatures that they are.



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Dart frogs get their toxins from particular combinations of insects they eat. A lot of a particular ant and other insects that feed on potentially poisonous plants and fungi. When the frog feeds on these insects the poison is mixed up by the frog's body. PDFs are not Ceratophrys and with that said they do not create a powerful toxin like PDFs do. You cannot assume that just because this species can perform complex chemical concoctions that another completely different species can do the same. PDFs are small and cannot defend themselves from large predators so they produce a fatal toxin biochemicaly to make themselves inedible.

Ceratophrys are large frogs with a painful bite and the ability to fill themselves with air to make them appear even larger. Not to mention the deafening screams they can produce to safe off potential predators. You can't compare a PDF to a Ceratophrys. They're not even close to the same., BUT all frogs and toads secrete a kind of toxin onto their skin. Some are deadly, others just make them taste bad or irritate the eyes and skin.

It would be highly unlikely that a Black Widow would wonder into your frog's enclosure. Black Widows are very secretive and like dark cluttered areas with little activity. You're frog's enclosure would not be to her liking .

[KingCam]

Frogs eat spiders all the time in the wild. The venom is usually rendered harmless when it comes into contact with stomach acids. HOWEVER, if the spider were to bite the frog on the way down it would definitely die if the bite came from a black widow.

[GrifTheGreat]

Frogs eat spiders all the time in the wild. The venom is usually rendered harmless when it comes into contact with stomach acids. HOWEVER, if the spider were to bite the frog on the way down it would definitely die if the bite came from a black widow.

Thanks Cam, That's exactly my point . Stomach acid breaks down nearly everything, but not all. Venom is basically a super concentrated chemically enhanced saliva. It is comprised of good chemical compounds that are only toxic when combined with the other proteins within the venom causing it to become harmful or deadly depending on what that specific venom does to the body.