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    Unhappy Small bubmps and scratches on Lily, my White's Tree Frog. Anybody know what this could be?

    She seemed and looked perfectly fine yesterday. But today, I noticed she has these weird skin discolorations that looks like scratches. They aren't bleeding or scabbed. I can't figure out what happened! There aren't any crickets inside her tank that would harm her. I also noticed somethings else. She has these small pimple like bumps on her back and also one near her nose.Do these look normal or should I be worried? She is captive bred for sure, so I know it isn't a parasite. Any advice!?

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    I'm not sure whats wrong I hope you get helpful comments soon or I would take it to the vet if it gets any worse or doesn't clear up... do the scratches look worse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyndsaygirl123 View Post
    She seemed and looked perfectly fine yesterday. But today, I noticed she has these weird skin discolorations that looks like scratches. They aren't bleeding or scabbed. I can't figure out what happened! There aren't any crickets inside her tank that would harm her. I also noticed somethings else. She has these small pimple like bumps on her back and also one near her nose.Do these look normal or should I be worried? She is captive bred for sure, so I know it isn't a parasite. Any advice!?

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    Lyndsay,
    She definitely got scratched by climbing passed something or trying to squeeze passed something?
    ( in photo behind her eye /our left)
    The bumps could be insect bites? You should treat them so they don't get infected.
    You could do a honey bath also :
    http://www.frogforum.net/content/bas...first-aid-142/
    Could there be some kind of insect in the substrate or from the wood that could bite her?
    How was the wood and or plants prepared prior to putting them into the enclosure?
    What feeders do you use?
    Inspect the entire enclosure very carefully.
    Look at her very closely to see if there are any tiny insects walking on her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Lyndsay,
    She definitely got scratched by climbing passed something or trying to squeeze passed something?
    ( in photo behind her eye /our left)
    The bumps could be insect bites? You should treat them so they don't get infected.
    You could do a honey bath also :
    Frog Forum - Basic Frog First Aid
    Could there be some kind of insect in the substrate or from the wood that could bite her?
    How was the wood and or plants prepared prior to putting them into the enclosure?
    What feeders do you use?
    Inspect the entire enclosure very carefully.
    Look at her very closely to see if there are any tiny insects walking on her.
    Thanks for your reply! The wood was baked, soaked in a bleach water solution, and then soaked and rinsed in dechlorinated water. I don't think any bugs would survive that. The plants were soaked also. I have fake plants in the tank, so I am thinking maybe she got scratched by one of them? She likes to hide in them so it would make sense. The scratches look a little better today.
    I have inspected her very well and I don't see any insects on her. I use cocofiber substrate from ZooMed, and I have not seen any insects in it.
    I saw an old thread with somebody who had the same problem and somebody said their vet told them they were stress spots. Ever heard of that? I only got her a week ago, and I think she has been pretty stressed getting used to her new surroundings.
    As for feeders, I give her crickets. But I tong feed her mostly, so I know they aren't crickets bites.

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    Default Re: Small bubmps and scratches on Lily, my White's Tree Frog. Anybody know what this could be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyndsaygirl123 View Post
    Thanks for your reply! The wood was baked, soaked in a bleach water solution, and then soaked and rinsed in dechlorinated water. I don't think any bugs would survive that. The plants were soaked also. I have fake plants in the tank, so I am thinking maybe she got scratched by one of them? She likes to hide in them so it would make sense. The scratches look a little better today.
    I have inspected her very well and I don't see any insects on her. I use cocofiber substrate from ZooMed, and I have not seen any insects in it.
    I saw an old thread with somebody who had the same problem and somebody said their vet told them they were stress spots. Ever heard of that? I only got her a week ago, and I think she has been pretty stressed getting used to her new surroundings.
    As for feeders, I give her crickets. But I tong feed her mostly, so I know they aren't crickets bites.
    Check the coco fiber for mites. sometimes the coco fiber will have mites in it that emerge after the substrate is moistened.


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    Default Re: Small bubmps and scratches on Lily, my White's Tree Frog. Anybody know what this could be?

    Also to prevent infection in the scratches apply a small amount of Original Neosporin that DOES NOT contain Painkiller. Just plain Neosporin.


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    Default Re: Small bubmps and scratches on Lily, my White's Tree Frog. Anybody know what this could be?

    I will check the fiber for mites and apply some plain Neosporin. Do you think the Neosporin could help the bumps too?

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    Default Re: Small bubmps and scratches on Lily, my White's Tree Frog. Anybody know what this could be?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Well the Cocoa Butter, Cottonseed Oil, and Olive Oil are non petroleum based and are natural. It would be best to use the Name brand here. I don't believe the one small application probably won't do any harm, but I always practice better safe than sorry when it comes to treatments.
    It turns out the real Neo contains white petroleum also. Should I still get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyndsaygirl123 View Post
    It turns out the real Neo contains white petroleum also. Should I still get it?
    No, I believe the Generic brand you've chosen will be fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    No, I believe the Generic brand you've chosen will be fine.
    All right, thank you! I will keep you all updated on her condition.

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    No improvement on the scratches or bumps today. But they don't look any worse. How long do you think it will be be before I should start seeing some improvement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyndsaygirl123 View Post
    No improvement on the scratches or bumps today. But they don't look any worse. How long do you think it will be be before I should start seeing some improvement?
    < But they don't look any worse> That's good! It may take some to time.

    Were you able to trim the leaves or remove them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    I'm so glad to read this !!
    Please keep me posted.
    Will do!

    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Amphibians take a long time to heal so like Lynn said it will take time for improvement.
    Good to know, thanks! Thankfully, I have noticed a bit of improvement today though!

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    Lily is looking so much better today! The scratches are hardly noticeable now, and the bumps are almost gone. That Triple Antibiotic worked so well! Thanks to both of you both for all your help! I (And Lily :P) really appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyndsaygirl123 View Post
    Lily is looking so much better today! The scratches are hardly noticeable now, and the bumps are almost gone. That Triple Antibiotic worked so well! Thanks to both of you both for all your help! I (And Lily :P) really appreciate it.

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    Looks much better. I'd continue until they're gone.

    You and Lily are very welcome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Looks much better. I'd continue until they're gone.

    You and Lily are very welcome.

    Agreed- She really does look better.
    So glad !!!!
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    Default Re: Small bubmps and scratches on Lily, my White's Tree Frog. Anybody know what this could be?

    Hi guys, I know this is a very late reply, but my frogs have the same lumps and bumps which started on one frog 3 months ago, now my 4 out of 5 frogs have them but its almost that bad that you cant find one smooth bit of surface on the skin. Could this be the same thing and if so, did the treatment work on the frog in this conversation?!

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