Whites Tree Frog Question

[KingCam]

From what I understand rain water is almost like distilled water, no minerals in it to speak of since raindrops are formed from water vapor in the air. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong! It just seems like rain water has the potential to leech vitamins and minerals from your frogs skin in the same way distilled would.

I just buy gallon jugs of spring water at my local grocery store for like 85¢ each, that is what I personally would reccomend for your whites and your greys. I could be wrong, but there ya go, that's my 2¢ :P

Whites tree frogs can get quite large. I'm sure a 33gal. would be okay for a few months just because it sounds like that's better than what they are in currently, but you will definitely want to consider upgrading down the road.

[Rae]

they are full grown already.

[KingCam]

Well if it's better than what they are already in you might as well go for it, and if one day you stumble on a good deal on a bigger aquarium, get it

[Rae]

the other one is bigger length wise but only 18 high... it is very stained and dirty from what the pics show and the lid looks duct taped and the screen on top looks warped

[KingCam]

the other one is bigger length wise but only 18 high... it is very stained and dirty from what the pics show and the lid looks duct taped and the screen on top looks warped

Sounds like a death trap! Save the frogs! A slightly smaller, taller, CLEAN cage is 100x better than living in filth like they are now.

[Rae]

[Rae]

Can someone take a close look at the frogs in the above pic as well PLEASE... it almost looks like theres a white scar on the green one unless im mistaken... Do they look healthy?

[flybyferns]

Can someone take a close look at the frogs in the above pic as well PLEASE... it almost looks like theres a white scar on the green one unless im mistaken... Do they look healthy?

Don't you think that could be a reflection?
They look well fed.

Is that the enclosure they were kept in?

[Rae]

yes that is there home from the sound of it and the pic of the frogs I believe is on the screen lid :/

They want $50 for everything

But the condition of the terrarium makes me concerned about the health of the frogs

[Rae]

Can't afford spring water and Rainwater has been fine for my greys... as the lived in it. My Reptile guy and others on here said that was fine for my greys.

Not so sure about for Whites since they are not native here....

(Just called my guy and he says he thinks rain water will be fine... and says he uses distilled for his dart frogs... so idk now)

[Rae]

[QUOTE=KingCam;131548]From what I understand rain water is almost like distilled water, no minerals in it to speak of since raindrops are formed from water vapor in the air. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong! It just seems like rain water has the potential to leech vitamins and minerals from your frogs skin in the same way distilled would.

Can anyone else confirm this I would like a few extra opinions on using rain water on Whites and the size of terrarium????

[Magz]

I have also been debating on getting one or two whites recently that's why I joined this forum. I haven't posted anything yet as I'm mainly just reading and observing. But I have noticed that many on here try to give there frogs more than needed room... which is great. If you can afford it. I would be like Rae as well, finding out what the min. needs are then working up once I can afford it.

I would have thought a 33 gallon would be fine... maybe not great... for two whites. I still think it would be....

Don't know anything about the rain water though sorry.

Good luck! And I give you thumbs up and think you deserve respect wanting to try save those Frogs and willing to take them even after you saw how they live and that one is scarred.

[Rae]

I just got back from Petsmart and bought some Zoo-med ReptiSafe, I figure even if I don't get the whites I can be adding calcium and electrolytes to the rain water for my greys.

One of the staff there said she always used rain water for her frogs but she had darts and red eyes but she added repti safe to them so idk lol...

[KingCam]

I just got back from Petsmart and bought some Zoo-med ReptiSafe, I figure even if I don't get the whites I can be adding calcium and electrolytes to the rain water for my greys.

One of the staff there said she always used rain water for her frogs but she had darts and red eyes but she added repti safe to them so I dont know lol...

My only concern with rain water is that it probably doesn't contain any vitamins and minerals, just like distilled water. Again, I need someone to confirm this, but it makes sense in my mind.

If this ReptiSafe stuff has minerals & electrolytes in it, then problem solved (again, I do not know any of this for sure.)

I just try to think about how the animal would behave in its natural environment. So let's look at dart frogs: they live in the rainforest, sometimes their only real source of water is small puddles of rain water in plants and on leaves. So it makes sense that they would be able to tolerate distilled water or pure rain water.

Now let's consider grey tree frogs: their water sources usually consist of a steam, pond, lake, or vernal pool. All of these water sources would be full of minerals, because they have been washing over rocks & soil. This leads me to believe it is best to provide spring water, well water, or treated tap water for soaking, but it is okay to mist with rain or distilled water, since they do get rained on in nature.

I do not know a whole lot about white's tree frogs, but I would assume the water sources they normally spend time in are similar to that of the grey tree frogs. Probably ponds, lakes, rivers, or streams.

[Rae]

Everything you said makes sense, as you said though it would be nice for others to way in there experience and opinions too lol

[KingCam]

Everything you said makes sense

That might be the first time anyone has ever said that to me XD hahahaha