URGENT! Sick Whites Tree Frog (Pictures included)

[flybyferns]

UPDATE: Shortly after posting this thread, Kevin passed away. :[

My boyfriend and I are burying him later.

So sorry !

[BlueisallIneed]

So sorry for your loss, but golden rule NEVER house different species of frogs together. Ever! You were lucky before that is all. Whites have very sensitive skin they can't be with others like that. Not to mention a wild one. Please keep the wild frogs in the wild.

[frolicthefaun]

The two frogs were fine together. I found out today after taking him to the vet that he had swallowed some of the coconut fiber in the tank. I have now taken out the substrate and am looking for something else to put on the bottom of the tank so the same thing doesn't happen to Trevor.

Any suggestions?

[BlueisallIneed]

Feed outside the tank with no substrate. Different species of frogs are not fine together, different frogs are toxic to each other. Good luck

[Bolisnide]

The two frogs were fine together. I found out today after taking him to the vet that he had swallowed some of the coconut fiber in the tank. I have now taken out the substrate and am looking for something else to put on the bottom of the tank so the same thing doesn't happen to Trevor.

Any suggestions?

I'm so sorry for your loss, I know it's hard to lose a pet.
As already mentioned, never mix species. Now you know, and never do it again.

As for the substrate, many use paper towels (unscented, no print, plain papertowels). This is what I use in my red-eye's enclosure, and I change them twice weekly.
For my white's, I use a layer of hydro-balls, screen, 2" coco fiber (the very fine coco fiber), and atop that live oak leaf litter that can be purchased from josh's frogs Josh's Frogs - Largest online herps feeders and reptile supplies store
Some feed in separate containers, but I find this stresses the frog out.
I use a small glass bowl for my red-eye and I hand feed my white's (I wear gloves because I hate crickets and worms)

[GrifTheGreat]

The two frogs were fine together. I found out today after taking him to the vet that he had swallowed some of the coconut fiber in the tank. I have now taken out the substrate and am looking for something else to put on the bottom of the tank so the same thing doesn't happen to Trevor.

Any suggestions?

It wasn't the coconut fiber. Coco fiber is safe for them to ingest because if doesn't cause blockages and is easily passed if some is ingested. Each frog and toad species secrete their own toxins that can make other species sick or be fatal. He would have had to ingest quite a large amount of coco fiber to cause an impaction. Most impaction last for quite a while and can be treated long before it becomes an issue to the point of death.

Now their are sometimes rocks, pieces of plastic, sticks, seeds, and other objects that sometimes can be found within the coco fiber that can and will cause an impaction if eaten. When was the last time he had pooped prior to him becoming ill?

[KingCam]

I'd like to second Grif in his/her opinion that the coco fiber is not the culprit. Constipation/impaction would not result in such a quick and dramatic death. It would happen very slowly over the course of two or more weeks in most cases.

It sounds to me, based on the photos and description, like your frog died from exposure to some kind of toxin.

[frolicthefaun]

Well, then maybe you guys would like to tell my vet that she was wrong?

Sorry to say, but I trust my vet a bit more then some people on a forum.

[Rae]

Well, then maybe you guys would like to tell my vet that she was wrong?

Sorry to say, but I trust my vet a bit more then some people on a forum.

Then why bother coming here for advice if you aren't going to believe it... also having 2 frogs in a 10 gallon is too small. Rule of thumb 1 frog per 10 gallons. But since you don't trust any of us keep doing what you are and you can start a lil frog graveyard in your backyard.

and yes most of us wouldn't have issues telling people when they are wrong... if it means saving another frog ...HINT HINT!