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    Hi all,

    I feed my pac night crawlers and crickets, with the occasional hornworm or waxworm. I would say his diet consists of 85% night crawlers, 10% crickets, and 5% hornworms and waxworms.

    With these percentages and the fact that night crawlers can act as a laxative, his last three or four poos have been very runny.

    Is this ok?

    Shouldn't he have more of a solid stool? I can see having the squirts every now and then, but is it good to have runny stools all the time? If I continue this diet pattern of mostly night crawlers then I can assume his stool will always be this way, right?

    Also, he's pooing about once a week. The last time he went was after I set him in his water bowl and phew! was it a mess! I have started taking him out and soaking him in lukewarm water once a week. Should I increase the number of times I soak per week? I don't want to stress him out. I'm not sure of his age, but he's about 3" SVL.

    Ultimately, my question is - is this OK or should I add more crickets into his diet to "stabilize" (for lack of a better word) his stool? I've considered offering him a very small pinkie mouse to see how he does with it.

    Other than that everything is great with him. He eats good, croaks at night three or four times a week, and seems overall in good health.

    Thanks!

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    Runny stool is often a sign of parasites. They can get parasites from crickets. Not changing the water frequently can cause it too. Stress can also cause runny stool, but having runny bowel movements several times in a row is more likely parasites. You should have a fecal sample tested to be sure. Some vets will let you drop off a sample to be tested without bringing the frog in (less stress for the frog). Hope you your little guy feels better soon!


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    Frog Forum - How to do Fecal Exams Shows you how to do your own fecal exams. Its not that difficult if you have the equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evolution View Post
    Frog Forum - How to do Fecal Exams Shows you how to do your own fecal exams. Its not that difficult if you have the equipment.
    Thanks for the link, Evolution! While that is a very interesting read I think I'll leave it to the experts

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Runny stool is often a sign of parasites. They can get parasites from crickets. Not changing the water frequently can cause it too. Stress can also cause runny stool, but having runny bowel movements several times in a row is more likely parasites. You should have a fecal sample tested to be sure. Some vets will let you drop off a sample to be tested without bringing the frog in (less stress for the frog). Hope you your little guy feels better soon!
    Oh boy! I was hoping it wasn't something like that, and was just the diet of night crawlers.

    I'm going to call my vet in the morning and make sure they can perform fecal exams. I'm sure they can, but never hurts to ask first. As soon as I get a "specimen" from him again I'll have it checked out.

    Hopefully, parasites aren't the case, but if it is I want to have it treated ASAP.

    Anything I can do in the mean time? Like I said, he's pretty healthy otherwise (good appetite, active, clear, responsive eyes, etc)?

    Thanks Grif.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeRiddle View Post
    Oh boy! I was hoping it wasn't something like that, and was just the diet of night crawlers.

    I'm going to call my vet in the morning and make sure they can perform fecal exams. I'm sure they can, but never hurts to ask first. As soon as I get a "specimen" from him again I'll have it checked out.

    Hopefully, parasites aren't the case, but if it is I want to have it treated ASAP.

    Anything I can do in the mean time? Like I said, he's pretty healthy otherwise (good appetite, active, clear, responsive eyes, etc)?

    Thanks Grif.
    As long as there wasn't any blood in his stool and he is active and acting normally he will be fine until you get a fecal exam done. There is a possibility that he just has a sensitive stomach. One of my males Loki gets runny stool anytime I give time something new. First Dubia he ate gave him runny stool. Lol! Must have been spicy.


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    As long as there wasn't any blood in his stool and he is active and acting normally he will be fine until you get a fecal exam done. There is a possibility that he just has a sensitive stomach. One of my males Loki gets runny stool anytime I give time something new. First Dubia he ate gave him runny stool. Lol! Must have been spicy.
    I'm hoping that's what's going on with Orion. He was fed nothing but crickets at the pet store I bought him from and the first two weeks I had him.

    Then I started feeding him mainly nightcrawlers with a couple crickets.

    His first two poops were solid while his last two (after starting to feed nightcrawlers) were runny.

    Hopefully it is the change but I'm still going to have a fecal exam performed once I get a stool sample.

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    I finally got a (very large) stool from Orion this morning. It was soft, but not as runny as before. I called the vet as soon as they opened and took the stool in for an exam. I should found out the results Tuesday.

    Fingers crossed that everything comes back normal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeRiddle View Post
    I finally got a (very large) stool from Orion this morning. It was soft, but not as runny as before. I called the vet as soon as they opened and took the stool in for an exam. I should found out the results Tuesday.

    Fingers crossed that everything comes back normal!
    Be sure and let us know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Be sure and let us know.
    Thanks Grif. I'll update as soon as I get the results.

    On a side note - Orion's colors are much more vibrant after the big poo. He was very dark in color the past couple days. Could this be a sign that he was backed up or just a coincidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeRiddle View Post
    Thanks Grif. I'll update as soon as I get the results.

    On a side note - Orion's colors are much more vibrant after the big poo. He was very dark in color the past couple days. Could this be a sign that he was backed up or just a coincidence?
    Probably stress from being constipated and uncomfortable. Their colors can be used to determine stress levels and mood. Even illness.


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