Greetings

[1beataway]

Hi there.

What kinds of snakes and what kind of gecko? I'm curious what set-ups you have for your frogs too.

[FrogSplash]

I have: 3 ball pythons, 1 w. hognose, 1 snow corn, 1 emporer, flatrock scorp, dune scorp, desert hairy, stripe tail, and the devil of them all a female tokay gecko. i have my frogs divided into 2 tanks, 1 for the smaller ones and 1 for the bigger ones. the 29T has the euro. green toads and the tree frog, 75-80 degrees ~80% humidity with coconut fiber bedding. the mentella and mystery frog and spadefoot are in a 10g water/gravel setup (probably not the right setup but its there for a purpose) 70-75 degrees and 80+ humidity. theres also a good lining of moss and a hide. the spadefoot is inbetween, when in the big tank it just sits in the water bowl, but when in the smaller and cooler tank it just tries to escape so im not sure what to do with it for now.

p.s. the smaller tank is more than likely a better set up for a pair or trio of oriental fire bellies.

[Kurt]

Welcome aboard. First of all I would like to tell you that you have a major problem with your frogs. You should not mix species, especially if they come from differnet eco-zones and habitats. The reasons for this are many.

First, most amphibians exude toxins to protect themselves from predation, while at the same time all amphibians have porous skin that absorb everything including toxins from other amphibians. So keeping multiple species together means that they are poisoning each other.

Second, most amphibians are wild caught and are very likely to be harboring gastrointestinal parasites and other pathogens native to where they were collected. So putting together animals from different parts of the world, means they will be trading off these pathogens that they will most likely will have no immunity towards. Also being wild caught, they will experience elevated amounts of stress until they become accustomed to life in captivity. Stress will weaken their immune systems allowing for harmful pathogens to bloom and kill your frogs.

Third there are environment conditions to consider. Not everything you keep together have the same environmental requirements. Keeping them all together in the same enclosure means you satisfy one or none, definitely not all.

Now lets look at one of your enclosures and the frogs you keep in there as an example. In one, you keep three different species, an Americam green toad, Anaxyrus debilis, an eastern spadefoot toad, Scaphiopus holbrooki, and a mantella of unknown species. All three come from different enviroments. Two are definitely known to be toxic, the third I am not sure about. Anaxyrus debilis is found in arid areas of the Southwest US, Scaphiopus holbrooki is found in temperate parts of the Eastern US, and the mantella is found on the island of Madagascar. All three have different requirements and all are most likely to be wild caught. I can only see this situation resulting in disaster for these frogs if they are to be kept together.

So bottom line, they all need to be separated to their own individual enclosures and brought to the vet for deworming as soon as possible.

[FrogSplash]

its a mantella viridis

[Kurt]

Still most likely toxic. Please get them into their own enclosures as soon as possible.

[FrogSplash]

i will when i can.

[1beataway]

To the frogs sharing tanks, oh no!

To the snakes, that sounds nice. What colors are the ball pythons? You should put up some pics of all your pets.

To the smaller tank, you should get fire-belly toads. What fun little silly toads. If I had any room left over in my apartment, I would get some (note: I have said the same thing about a tomato frog, pacman frog, albino kingsnake, golden tree frog, bearded dragon, a hamster, a fish aquarium, a saltwater tank, and a cat. I live in a studio apartment. I barely have room to turn. ).

I hope that you can get the frogs separated soon and enjoy them. They're addictive. You'll -have- to get more.