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    I was told 2, but if 3 is better than 3 i shall do! Can i give calcium two days in a row or not?
    Best not to.


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    Best not to.
    The amount of calcium given is also going to depend on how often the animal eats prey items with bones in them. Pinkies should always be dipped in calcium when given, as they have weak bone structure and are low in calcium.
    The Pacman food does not need to be given with supplements because they are already in them.

    I'm assuming you would give calcium three times a week to a baby frog. Once they get over two inches they arent going to need to eat but every two or three days, adults, even less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra View Post
    The amount of calcium given is also going to depend on how often the animal eats prey items with bones in them. Pinkies should always be dipped in calcium when given, as they have weak bone structure and are low in calcium.
    The Pacman food does not need to be given with supplements because they are already in them.

    I'm assuming you would give calcium three times a week to a baby frog. Once they get over two inches they arent going to need to eat but every two or three days, adults, even less.
    That's not correct. A 2.5" female still has significant growth to undergo and therefore would still need that large amount of calcium to maintain the bone strength as they grow. Large juveniles and adults don't have to be given as much calcium once they've reached their peak growth and are Fed less often. Calcium is also an electrolyte and used to assist in hydration so even large frogs still need a good source of calcium, but it will be less often because they are Fed less.

    The Pacman Food is an All in one source, but when feeding other items such as invertebrates it is best to provide a calcium supplement and yes even with small invertebrates like pinkies. Most people don't use the Pac food as a staple due to cost and availability so even I only provide it as a treat.


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    grif's right: I've only ever mixed the Ca2+ and vit for reptiles and there's no harm in separating the two even for them. For my juvie fantasy, I dust my crickets/worms with Ca2+ w/o D3 5x a week then Saturday with Ca2+ w/D3 and Sunday with herpivite. I believe the vitamin powder has D3 in it, but 2 days a week with D3 isn't going to hurt anyone. I plan to continue this regimen until he/she is fully grown. Keep in mind that there's always the danger of toxicity with any sort of supplement, so don't overdo it with the D3: calcium toxicity is just as bad as calcium deficiency and can actually cause death/coma more quickly. As grif said, proper Ca2+ helps with hydration, but too much can actually dehydrate them. They're nocturnal and produce their own D3 anyway, I just give it because I don't provide UVB and it makes me feel better.

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