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[kueluck]

I think it's time to maybe cut back on just how much these little lima beans are eating. As you can see they have nice plump bellies, but watching them eat is just sooo much fun. Abendnego & Meshack will eat right from the tongs. Meshack sees the tong coming and sits with head up and just opens his mouth waiting for it. “open wide, here comes the airplane” pops into my head when I do this. Shadrack still won't eat from tongs, but he watches they other ones do this so maybe in time. Last night after the bowl was taken out and the last roach was eaten......by him, he stared at me as if to say “more please”. One look at his belly and you can see he didn't need anymore. I just turned my head and continued to watch the movie.

[yoshimi]

I think it's time to maybe cut back on just how much these little lima beans are eating. As you can see they have nice plump bellies, but watching them eat is just sooo much fun. Abendnego & Meshack will eat right from the tongs. Meshack sees the tong coming and sits with head up and just opens his mouth waiting for it. “open wide, here comes the airplane” pops into my head when I do this. Shadrack still won't eat from tongs, but he watches they other ones do this so maybe in time. Last night after the bowl was taken out and the last roach was eaten......by him, he stared at me as if to say “more please”. One look at his belly and you can see he didn't need anymore. I just turned my head and continued to watch the movie.

The one in center, smiling for camera cracks me up. I know they all smile, but whatever. He's posing. Nice bellies on everyone. Tong-feeding is the closest I'll ever come to interacting directly with banjo without him cowering a little. Tho last night he cowered from rinsed worm on tongs cuz it was dripping on or near him, and generally menacing. So I blotted worm with paper towel and laid it on top of his fake half log. Worked great, cuz he was standing right there.. He ate two earthworms the night before, but not before I cut the 1st up with a pair of scissors (ack). No good reason for that mutilation, cuz the 2nd he ate whole, and I was told their tongues just won't stick to slimy earthworms. Did not know that. Now I'm reading european nightcrawlers (what I just bought sat) are potentially bad or at least not as good as canadian. Thoughts on worm nationality/type? Methods that have worked for you? Actually that casserole dish would be a perfect worm training arena. I mean for frog training, tho I wouldn't turn my nose up at a talented worm.

ps. how big, in cm or inches, are these lima beans? I have a few variations on those plastic leaves, (but only one hanging by it's suction cup way up on tank wall; afraid he'll poke his eye out, and used to be afraid he'd try to climb them and it'd fall), so I can sort of figure their size. Little beans. I asked cuz that cricket looks huge to me. Not too big for frog, but it needs to shave it's legs. It's got adult dubia legs. Stubbly. Maybe just a really detailed pic, and I've never looked too closely at one. Most of mine are little right now, and I like that cuz tho it makes it harder to get them out of dusting bottle (i use a cleaned out pill bottle, wider than an average wide one), I like that I can see whether they've recently had some carrot. And they're not as good at jumping out of food dish. Or evading my wrangling in cricket bin. Suckers.

[kueluck]

Size, I would say about 1.5" for the 2 smaller ones, and Shadrack is about a inch bigger. I'll have to messure them when I get home tonite. And the feeders are roaches, red runners.

The one in center, smiling for camera cracks me up. I know they all smile, but whatever. He's posing. Nice bellies on everyone. Tong-feeding is the closest I'll ever come to interacting directly with banjo without him cowering a little. Tho last night he cowered from rinsed worm on tongs cuz it was dripping on or near him, and generally menacing. So I blotted worm with paper towel and laid it on top of his fake half log. Worked great, cuz he was standing right there.. He ate two earthworms the night before, but not before I cut the 1st up with a pair of scissors (ack). No good reason for that mutilation, cuz the 2nd he ate whole, and I was told their tongues just won't stick to slimy earthworms. Did not know that. Now I'm reading european nightcrawlers (what I just bought sat) are potentially bad or at least not as good as canadian. Thoughts on worm nationality/type? Methods that have worked for you? Actually that casserole dish would be a perfect worm training arena. I mean for frog training, tho I wouldn't turn my nose up at a talented worm.

ps. how big, in cm or inches, are these lima beans? I have a few variations on those plastic leaves, (but only one hanging by it's suction cup way up on tank wall; afraid he'll poke his eye out, and used to be afraid he'd try to climb them and it'd fall), so I can sort of figure their size. Little beans. I asked cuz that cricket looks huge to me. Not too big for frog, but it needs to shave it's legs. It's got adult dubia legs. Stubbly. Maybe just a really detailed pic, and I've never looked too closely at one. Most of mine are little right now, and I like that cuz tho it makes it harder to get them out of dusting bottle (i use a cleaned out pill bottle, wider than an average wide one), I like that I can see whether they've recently had some carrot. And they're not as good at jumping out of food dish. Or evading my wrangling in cricket bin. Suckers.

[yoshimi]

D'oh. That makes more sense. I even googled your roaches then decided (incorrectly) that it looked too cricket-y.

[kueluck]

Here are the sizes and I forgot to mention I only use Canadian nightcrawlers since I always have them in the house for my garters.

[yoshimi]

No kidding, those bellies are awesome. Little buddahs. Bigger than I thought tho. Googled some pics of White's Tree Frogs and I can see how they can be called Dumpy tree frogs, tho I think that's a little mean. Some get hugely fat, wow. Yours don't look dumpy. I guess in time they may become great big blobs of adorable frog. Do these suction cup themselves to the sides of tank to sleep? Paul and I saw some doing that (think was a different species) and assumed they were fake til I noticed one breathing. Like you were concerned about, there was one just resting on the ground while his buddies were up higher and I worried for him. I still maintain that petsmart is more heart-breaking. At least my local petco has employees seen cleaning the tanks. It was at a petsmart that i saw a terribly thin tree frog. Felt I shouldn't have been able to see ribs, not that I know anything about them. These places should have regular surprise inspections by vets (if they don't already), and if too many amphibians are found to be sick or under-cared for, they should loose their frog license. And that should be a real thing.

Was just watching youtube videos of toads eating earthworms, to see how other people offer them. I still don't have a good system down. I get nervous about doing it correctly, with little or no dirt eating. So far, I'm seeing people just setting it down in front of them where it can't really burrow, and the toads take it from there. The best luck I've had is swishing a worm in toad water to clean it, blotting dry on paper towel, then laying it on his half-log when he was sitting next to it. Then today, holding one part with tongs and letting the other half touch down on rock steps Banjo was sitting on. I'll experiment more, but do you have any tips, what works for you? If it involves chopping it into pieces, I tried that 1st and it was awful. Think it worked but unnecessary cuz he can eat a whole one if he can get even a part of it into his mouth.

Anyway, these look great. Hope they've been pooping more good poops for you.

[yoshimi]

Was just watching youtube videos of toads eating earthworms, to see how other people offer them. I still don't have a good system down. I get nervous about doing it correctly, with little or no dirt eating. So far, I'm seeing people just setting it down in front of them where it can't really burrow, and the toads take it from there. The best luck I've had is swishing a worm in toad water to clean it, blotting dry on paper towel, then laying it on his half-log when he was sitting next to it. Then today, holding one part with tongs and letting the other half touch down on rock steps Banjo was sitting on. I'll experiment more, but do you have any tips, what works for you? If it involves chopping it into pieces, I tried that 1st and it was awful. Think it worked but unnecessary cuz he can eat a whole one if he can get even a part of it into his mouth.

I did it!! Or I figured out a way to make it happen, and I wanted to share it with you. This is the thread where I whine like a sad sack, http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...tml#post165036 but at the end I try a big plastic dish and get him eating one on video. He ate 3 in this fashion, (2 calcium/d3 dusted, one not), and another earlier this afternoon, but I only caught the last on tape. Not such good quality, even enhanced, but you can tell what's going on. I simply asked myself, wwgd (what would Gail do)? hah!