Wow
Sounds so intense! For such little babies, this is terrible.
I'm going to do a fecal on my new arrival as mine came from petco also, I'll let you know what they find. I'm curious if all the babies were shipped already infected, or if it was contracted at petco...
Also, I must admit, I have NOT been really cautious when cleaning water bowls. I clean the baby's then go on to clean the adult white's and then the red-eye's. I hope I didn't cross contaminate anything. I DO wash my hands in between. Maybe I should have fecals done on all my frogs...
Gail, I'm so glad you didn't return the frogs! You're right, they would have died.
You are an angel.
1.1.0 White's Treefrog
1.0.0 Red Eyed Leaf Frog
The Vets reply is:
Hi Miss Hill. Sorry of the lack of information going home with you. The medication is Ivomec. The fecals were positive for various stongeloids, giarda, and mites. Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Really doesn't help me know exactly what they found but at least I have something to show Petco.
Rest in peace Rosie 5-31-12
Rest in peace Rufus 2-7-14
Rest in peace Morph 8-14-15
Good gracious Gail, Poor babies!!
Thanks to you .........they will get better!
I wonder if you could make Petco pay the vet bill?
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
http://www.fernsfrogs.com
https://www.facebook.com/ferns.frogs
Gail, i am so sorry to hear about your froggies they are in excellent hands now, so much better than petco. Sadly, it's hit or miss with chain stores. I think their employees are instructed to say everything is c.b. because they know no one will buy w.c. I give you a LOT of credit for your restraint, i would have been yelling and screaming at the manger long ago. But i am not a patient person when it comes to this stuff.
It really sucks that you had to tear the viv down because of it, but vivs can be rebuilt, frogs can't
And really, i realize this is a serious situation, but i got a giggle out of the buy 2 get one free fecal sample sale!! Lol
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
Well if I would have gone to Petco yesterday, I would have ended up in jail. All in all the only thing that matters is that the frogs make it through this and are in good health when all is said and done. But I'm not rushing into redoing the tank until I can get a clean fecal on all of them.
Rest in peace Rosie 5-31-12
Rest in peace Rufus 2-7-14
Rest in peace Morph 8-14-15
I don't think Shadrack is gonna make it. He's went from 12 - 9 grams in a few days. I attempted to force feed him but he's just so small. Now he looks like this after holding him down and trying to get a roach down his throat. Is it stress that causes this?? You can see the little ones are eating well.
Rest in peace Rosie 5-31-12
Rest in peace Rufus 2-7-14
Rest in peace Morph 8-14-15
Sunday 2-10. Abendnego eats like a hog, now I'm concerned if maybe I need to put him in a honey soak to get him to poop??? He looks like the balloon from from Shrek!! Also I was happy to see Shadrack back to his normal coloration, and he was soaking this am. & there was some somewhat formed poop in the dish. Not sure who it belonged to, but happy to see it any way. I'm going to Petco today to talk to them about the healthy of their animals and to pick up some crickets. Shad seems to prefer them over roaches, the two little lima beans will eat anything. It's been one crappy weekend!!
Rest in peace Rosie 5-31-12
Rest in peace Rufus 2-7-14
Rest in peace Morph 8-14-15
Petco response..........Our store policy is to return sick animals to us and we'll have them checked out by our recommended vet. Then we'll evaluate a refund or exchange. Not even a sorry about your frogs. GRRRRRRRRR I wanted to punch the guy, good thing I took my husband with me. He's the calm one.
Rest in peace Rosie 5-31-12
Rest in peace Rufus 2-7-14
Rest in peace Morph 8-14-15
I would have choked the living snot out of him. Ya know, tinkgirl lives in the new orleans area. Maybe she can get a voodoo priestess to curse.him
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
Bill, I'll pass on the curse thing. I just consider this a lesson learned to buy only from known breeders and not pet stores.
Rest in peace Rosie 5-31-12
Rest in peace Rufus 2-7-14
Rest in peace Morph 8-14-15
Whites Tree Frog: I found one well formed fecal matter in the Whites Tree Frog tank today which gives me much hope. Also Shadrack ate 2 wax worms this am, but still looks kinda thin. He's thinnger than when I got him so I really don't have much to compare this weight to.
Toads: Rufus popped up last night, enjoyed a few roaches and then tucked himself in under the moss this morning. He's is my tried and true toad.
AGTF: Vern is doing great. Putting a little weight back on and started to call.
Rest in peace Rosie 5-31-12
Rest in peace Rufus 2-7-14
Rest in peace Morph 8-14-15
Hi Gail,
They look great !!! You are officially a 'frog nurse' !
Current Collection
Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"
Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"
Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"
Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)
Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
Oophaga histrionica "Tado"
Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
Ranitomeya vanzolinii
http://www.fernsfrogs.com
https://www.facebook.com/ferns.frogs
Update on the Whites Tree Frog's
Shadrack weight is back up, he's a whopping 13 kg
Meshack is where he was on 2-6, 4 kg
Abendnego is up to 5 kg
Poop is forming on all 3, but still very soft and stinky. Also Shad & Abe shed with no problems. Eating, pooping, soaking, shedding..........I think they are on the right track.
Rest in peace Rosie 5-31-12
Rest in peace Rufus 2-7-14
Rest in peace Morph 8-14-15
yay!! they are extremely lucky to have you Gail. you are doing a fantastic job with them. they are starting to look mucho gooder!!!
1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
0.1.0 Bed Bully
Thanks Bill, but I'm just following what the Vet said to do. And I think I'm the lucky one to have gotten these little gems when I did. I hate to think what if I did't buy them and some one less responsible did. *shudders at the thought*
Rest in peace Rosie 5-31-12
Rest in peace Rufus 2-7-14
Rest in peace Morph 8-14-15
Gail, you are doing such a great job! They look so much better. It's tough work, but the enjoyment we get out of healing them and seeing them thriving and happy again is worth it.
I tend to have to agree with Lynn...I have a feeling they were either wild caught, or housed with something wild caught.
Your toads and green tree frogs look great too! I just love those cute toad faces. Look like grumpy little old men. I recall when they were just toadlets. So cute!
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Got ya covered gail, one really good new orleans style voodoo hoodoo curse coming right up! :: evil grin:wink,wink::
Keep up the great work! I had a run in with my local pet store. Had to send my husband in bc this lil bitty German dego nurse woulda lost her shiitake mushrooms at the owner. So long story short , I too ended up with a rescue. I will post the story in a diff thread. I hope I am as successful as you!
1.2.2 Agalychnis calidryas - Felix Felicis, Wall-E,Eva, Mike & Sull
0.0.2 Canis lupus familiaris (Italian greyhounds) - Zaffira & Aurora
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