Newts

[sobo]

I have had my 2 fires for about a year now and they are doing perfect!
I was thinking about switching this up a little and maybe putting fish or crabs in with them, but than i thought newts.

I have never owned one but i know that a fire belly tank set up is perfect for them and they do live peacefully with these toads.
Does anyone know anything about newts? What they eat, any requirements they might need, i want to be sure everythings fine before i buy one.

[ApxWingman]

I don't know much about newts, but I have read many things about this. I am sure many will agree here, it is never a good idea to mix species, and shouldn't be done.

[tgampper]

Hi Marty:

I do not recommend keeping newts and FBT together. The toads are toxic and many species of newts have some levels of toxins. Not a good combination. It is best to keep FBT by themselves. You can check out our sister site Caudata.org for info on the newts.

[atlantiselliott]

Yes I know a lot about newts even firebellies so here it is ;-)


1. 10-60 gallon tank is OK.
2. Sand or gravel is OK to, can use reptie carpet to.
3. plants (Optional) hides always good and decorations (Optional).
4. Diet is worms,crickets,small fish,and blood worms or brine shrimp.
5. 70-75 degrees.
6. I recomond a filter. ;-)
7. Good luck to you and I hope the newts survive.

[rodsboys]

Yes I know a lot about newts even firebellies so here it is ;-)


1. 10-60 gallon tank is OK.
2. Sand or gravel is OK to, can use reptie carpet to.
3. plants (Optional) hides always good and decorations (Optional).
4. Diet is worms,crickets,small fish,and blood worms or brine shrimp.
5. 70-75 degrees.
6. I recomond a filter. ;-)
7. Good luck to you and I hope the newts survive.

This is horrible advice. Why would you use carpet? 70-75 degrees? Really?

Marty- take a look at the site Terry posted. That is the best place on the net for newt info.

[frogged]

Yes I know a lot about newts even firebellies so here it is ;-)

1. 10-60 gallon tank is OK.
2. Sand or gravel is OK to, can use reptie carpet to.
3. plants (Optional) hides always good and decorations (Optional).
4. Diet is worms,crickets,small fish,and blood worms or brine shrimp.
5. 70-75 degrees.
6. I recomond a filter. ;-)
7. Good luck to you and I hope the newts survive.

Let's see, where to begin...
1.Decent. Don't go too large a tank for caudata.
2.Reptile carpet in a naturalistic vivarium. Not too bright.
3.Plants are not optional for many newt species.
4.Newts feed primarily on cut up earthworm species, and in occassion, other aquatic worms, and rarely, insects.
5.Too high a temperature.
6.Most newt keepers do not use filters.
7.With your advice, neither firebelly toad nor newts will survive.

[atlantiselliott]

Well mine have been together for 7 in a half years & they've done fine as well a filter is good for the
tank b/c it helps keep the water clean, I said 70-75 degrees is best b/c it keeps them active
I feed mine insects & they take it so its fine to feed insects
P.S fire belly toads & fire belly newts can survive together like mine have for 7 years so don't bother
if yours don't survive together then I ges some thing is wrong |:-(

[toxxxickitten]

Just because they CAN survive together doesn't make it a good idea. If you want to get some newts then get a separate enclosure for the newts. I'd also recommend checking out and joining Caudata.org for newt care and information.

[atlantiselliott]

I'm a member of caudata.org & I reserch it every day well maybe I was just lucky
at keeping them together or maybe its b/c the water is 1 ft. deep & I keep these animals together
1 chinese golden thread turtle,1 firebellied toad, 1 paddle tail salamander,1 siren,2 goldfish
4 clams, & a few minnows so was I just lucky?

[sobo]

There is no reason to argue, everyone has their own opinion and found the info they know at different places.
There is never one way to build an enclosure, so yes people have different ways to do it.

Anyways, I am fine with the tank and set-up i have, i know it will work. I also know one newt will survive in a 10-gallon tank with 2 frogs.
Its been done and is being done by many people i have talked to. I was mainly just wondering what they ate, because i only feed crickets to my frogs, i didnt want to switch food.

But i got my answer, so thanks all!

[frogged]

I'm a member of caudata.org & I reserch it every day well maybe I was just lucky
at keeping them together or maybe its b/c the water is 1 ft. deep & I keep these animals together
1 chinese golden thread turtle,1 firebellied toad, 1 paddle tail salamander,1 siren,2 goldfish
4 clams, & a few minnows so was I just lucky?

Members of caudata.org do NOT keep paddle tail salamanders with anything else. Lady luck must be shining on you. As I have clearly stated, what you see above as a lack of aggression, usually ends up to be a build up of stress, toxins, and tension, causing overall poor quality of health in the later years.

Consider the statistics of how often it does not work and how often it does. By the way, firebelly newts require temperatures of 16-20 celsius, and firebellied toads, 22-26 celsius.

In considering statistics and the experiences of others, you have thus found, statistics to support your opinion. Opinions become incorrect when proven wrong by overwhelming opposing views, as we have here. We have here, an entire list of mixing errors, made even by experienced hobbyists. http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/M...isasters.shtml

Certainly mixed tanks, like our natural environment, require large spaces with low bioloads; obviously, beginner hobbyists cannot do either properly.

[atlantiselliott]

So mine do perfect together, matter a fact I got a emperor newt so they are fine. They have never harmed each other. So please don't be like this with me, p.s my newt ate my frogs