First Pacman

[Sir Mitchel]

I'll give that another go. I initially offered them the old fashioned way, but he didn't seem at all interested. I'll keep trying and give it time.

As far as species identification, I'll get some better pictures up in the next day or two. He was advertised as an Ornata, so I took that for what it was worth. Fortunately I didn't/don't have a preference for a particular species.

[JIvoryII]

I'm thinking more and more its a cranwell and it should eat soon now that temps are good and such... We've decided to make a vid on tong feeding soon cuz typing it out is a pain and can be interpreted many ways.. seeing gives a better grasp especially when its a frog that's not to keen on the idea of the tongs.. I'll have to see if I have any new froglets that are ready to start, I think there may be one or two just about done absorbing their tails and I have a cornuta or two that can be a pain at times about taking and eatting their worms

[TeeRiddle]

I'll give that another go. I initially offered them the old fashioned way, but he didn't seem at all interested. I'll keep trying and give it time.

As far as species identification, I'll get some better pictures up in the next day or two. He was advertised as an Ornata, so I took that for what it was worth. Fortunately I didn't/don't have a preference for a particular species.

Very beautiful frog!

I'm very glad the second UTH worked well for you. When I added one to the side of my terrarium it didn't make much of a change in temps. Now I'm wondering if the UTH, or temp gauge is working properly lol.

I also have a Fantasy (C. cranwelli X C. cornuta) and he either does not like tongs or hasn't gotten used to them yet. As JIvory mentioned, I have to drop feeders in front of him and "hide away" to watch. After 30 seconds or so he will raise up after detecting some food moving around then snatches them up when they get near. Carefully break the hind legs off crickets to make them easier for your Pac to catch (awesome tip offered by GrifTheGreat).

As for night crawlers, I cut them into 1-1/2 pieces and place them about a half-inch in front of him with the tongs. Once the worm starts to wiggle a bit he starts lurching for it. Make sure to dust feeders with a good calcium powder with vitamin D3 every other feeding and dust with a multivitamin powder once per week, but not on the same day as a calcium dusting (another awesome tip I learned from GrifTheGreat). RepCal is a popular calcium powder and Herptivite for multivitamins.

There's also Repashy Calcium Plus that offers a good balance of calcium and essential vitamins.

Hope this helps!

Also, I've noticed on some websites that sale reptiles and amphibians that all Pacs for sale are listed as C. ornata, even the cranwellies. Not sure why.

[GrifTheGreat]

Very beautiful frog!

I'm very glad the second UTH worked well for you. When I added one to the side of my terrarium it didn't make much of a change in temps. Now I'm wondering if the UTH, or temp gauge is working properly lol.

I also have a Fantasy (C. cranwelli X C. cornuta) and he either does not like tongs or hasn't gotten used to them yet. As JIvory mentioned, I have to drop feeders in front of him and "hide away" to watch. After 30 seconds or so he will raise up after detecting some food moving around then snatches them up when they get near. Carefully break the hind legs off crickets to make them easier for your Pac to catch (awesome tip offered by GrifTheGreat).

As for night crawlers, I cut them into 1-1/2 pieces and place them about a half-inch in front of him with the tongs. Once the worm starts to wiggle a bit he starts lurching for it. Make sure to dust feeders with a good calcium powder with vitamin D3 every other feeding and dust with a multivitamin powder once per week, but not on the same day as a calcium dusting (another awesome tip I learned from GrifTheGreat). RepCal is a popular calcium powder and Herptivite for multivitamins.

There's also Repashy Calcium Plus that offers a good balance of calcium and essential vitamins.

Hope this helps!

Also, I've noticed on some websites that sale reptiles abs amphibians that all Pacs for sale are listed as C. ornata, even the cranwellies. Not sure why.

The reason most places label the frogs as Ornates is because 1, Ornates are well sought after by a lot of keeper and are the most popular of the Ceratophrys species. 2, Whoever labeled the frogs species has no clue how to identify the species of the frog so they label them incorrectly. Key examples are chain stress like Petsmart and Petco, but occasionally we can take advantage of such misinformation as Petco and Petsmart sometimes have Ornates for sale for $15.00 because they don't sell them for their true $30.00 and up value.

[TeeRiddle]

The reason most places label the frogs as Ornates is because 1, Ornates are well sought after by a lot of keeper and are the most popular of the Ceratophrys species. 2, Whoever labeled the frogs species has no clue how to identify the species of the frog so they label them incorrectly. Key examples are chain stress like Petsmart and Petco, but occasionally we can take advantage of such misinformation as Petco and Petsmart sometimes have Ornates for sale for $15.00 because they don't sell them for their true $30.00 and up value.

Interesting stuff, Grif! It's a shame that some sellers mislabel the species in order to charge more, but I'm sure it happens a bunch. I'm surprised the ornates are the most popular species. I would have guessed green cranwelli. I guess that's just my perception because that's what I see most often in local pet stores

[GrifTheGreat]

Interesting stuff, Grif! It's a shame that some sellers mislabel the species in order to charge more, but I'm sure it happens a bunch. I'm surprised the ornates are the most popular species. I would have guessed green cranwelli. I guess that's just my perception because that's what I see most often in local pet stores

Most seen and most popular are not the same. See C. Cranwelli is the most common in the Pet Trade, but The Argentine Horned Frog(C. Ornata) is the most popular for their striking colors, vivid pattern, and all around aggressive feeding behavior. Their overall appearance to most people is more pleasing to the eyes than a Cranwelli. In my eyes their all equally beautiful and I favor no species except for the Brazilian Horned Frog C. Aurita. It is by far my favorite, but each species has its own structural differences and spot pattern as well as shades of color. The green of a Green Ornate is much brighter than the Green On GreenC. Cranwelli, BUT I see the C. Joazeirensis(Caatinga) growing in popularity soon. Its rare and very beautiful. I'm going to be collecting a pair from each species of Ceratophrys.

[Sir Mitchel]

Very beautiful frog!

Make sure to dust feeders with a good calcium powder with vitamin D3 every other feeding and dust with a multivitamin powder once per week, but not on the same day as a calcium dusting (another awesome tip I learned from GrifTheGreat). RepCal is a popular calcium powder and Herptivite for multivitamins.

Thanks for the praise.

Yes, I have both of the RepCal supplements you mentioned.

[Sir Mitchel]

Thought I'd share some pictures of my other frogs (Western Chorus Frogs, Pseudacris triseriata):

These are a species local to my area. The adults were rescued from a window well. The froglets were rescued as tadpoles from a small, drying-up puddle.

[Sir Mitchel]

Here's a better picture of the Pacman. Hopefully it will be more revealing as to its species.

[GrifTheGreat]

Here's a better picture of the Pacman. Hopefully it will be more revealing as to its species.

Green Ceratophrys Cranwelli. Very nice shade of green too .

[Sir Mitchel]

Just thought I'd give a quick update.

My Pacman is doing very well. I've been successfully tong-feeding him for the last week or so. JIvoryII's tong-feeding video was very helpful.

Temperature is very steady, but humidity is giving me a bit of trouble, as it fluctuates more than I would like. I'm considering purchasing a mister system and use it on a timer. If anyone could recommend a good mister for this application, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks for you continued support!

[TeeRiddle]

Thought I'd share some pictures of my other frogs (Western Chorus Frogs, Pseudacris triseriata):

These are a species local to my area. The adults were rescued from a window well. The froglets were rescued as tadpoles from a small, drying-up puddle.

Very nice collection of frogs, Mitch!

I love the pictures of the tadpoles and the little blue chair. Thanks for sharing