what do you use to disinfect?

[arielgasca420]

GriftheGreat is spot on.
wipe out is a really good product and they also have mite off that works like a charm if you have a mite problem in your cage. its a little more expensive but takes away the labor of rinsing with hot water. the only things i disinfect in the cage with a bleach ratio is the water bowls.

[mrzoggs]

some solutions have a much small action range than bleach. bleach is definitely more effective than a lot of other things you can find. ive heard you can follow it up with a aquarium dechlorinator rinse afterwards just to be sure. bleach is also very cheap and easy to obtain. and will also last you a long time because your diluting it 10:1.


you could also look up oxine ah.
The Many Uses of Oxine AH (Animal Health)

they say its much milder...

bleach would be the way to go. just use it right. it kills almost anything and is cheap and easy to get. if your worried about not getting all the fumes out (which rinsing, air drying, and wiping) will do fine, use an aquarium dechlorinator.

[GrifTheGreat]

some solutions have a much small action range than bleach. bleach is definitely more effective than a lot of other things you can find. ive heard you can follow it up with a aquarium dechlorinator rinse afterwards just to be sure. bleach is also very cheap and easy to obtain. and will also last you a long time because your diluting it 10:1.


you could also look up oxine ah.
The Many Uses of Oxine AH (Animal Health)

they say its much milder...
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bleach would be the way to go. just use it right. it kills almost anything and is cheap and easy to get. if your worried about not getting all the fumes out (which rinsing, air drying, and wiping) will do fine, use an aquarium dechlorinator.

I've heard too many horror stories with using bleach so I don't use it. Even diluted is powerful enough to kill your frogs.

[mrzoggs]

I've heard too many horror stories with using bleach so I don't use it. Even diluted is powerful enough to kill your frogs.

if rinsed and air dried properly there will be no bleach left. i have to clean at least 2 tanks for my red eyes every couple days. they are going through a hookworm treatment. dr frye recommended bleach along with many other genius froggers i know. i wash EVERYTHING with bleach. a rinse and an air dry and everything is gone. i for one have never heard of a horror story with bleach. and if there was one, they obviously didnt use the proper precautions when rinsing and drying.


yes diluted bleach can kill your frogs, if they come in contact with it... after i rinse with water in the bathtub for a few minutes, i fill up the containor with fresh water straight from the tub and let it sit for a few minutes. then i dump it all out and whipe it all clean. i smell zero bleach inside the tank and also have brought it around the house to make sure no one else smelled any either (just to make sure my nose wasnt already used to it from cleaning) and it has worked fine for me.

[GrifTheGreat]

if rinsed and air dried properly there will be no bleach left. i have to clean at least 2 tanks for my red eyes every couple days. they are going through a hookworm treatment. dr frye recommended bleach along with many other genius froggers i know. i wash EVERYTHING with bleach. a rinse and an air dry and everything is gone. i for one have never heard of a horror story with bleach. and if there was one, they obviously didnt use the proper precautions when rinsing and drying.


yes diluted bleach can kill your frogs, if they come in contact with it... after i rinse with water in the bathtub for a few minutes, i fill up the containor with fresh water straight from the tub and let it sit for a few minutes. then i dump it all out and whipe it all clean. i smell zero bleach inside the tank and also have brought it around the house to make sure no one else smelled any either (just to make sure my nose wasnt already used to it from cleaning) and it has worked fine for me.

When cleaning the tank to rid it and the frogs of parasites that they are already infected with is standard quarantine procedure. Its different than regular tank cleaning, BUT if the tank has a powerful odor then their is no substitute for bleach to rid the tank of the odor and any stains.

[mrzoggs]

when doing a "total cleanout", i would use only bleach and water. It is safe if used right, cheap and easy to obtain, and is more effective in killing germs, bacteria, mold, etc than anything else available. There is no problem with using bleach. Do not spray your frogs with it or put your frogs in a tank that has bleach in it. That is common sense. It is not for just getting rid of parasites for QT, the frog can also get bacterial infections from inproper cleaning/sterilization of a tank. So whether or not my frogs have or do not have hookworms, the cleaning process would be the same for me.

[DVirginiana]

If I've got to do a serious clean-out of a tank, like if there was an infestation or if an animal with an infection was housed in it, then I'll think about bleach. Most of the time, I do more frequent cleanings with vinegar. A good scrub and rinse with vinegar seems to work fine for basic substrate changes.

[GrifTheGreat]

when doing a "total cleanout", i would use only bleach and water. It is safe if used right, cheap and easy to obtain, and is more effective in killing germs, bacteria, mold, etc than anything else available. There is no problem with using bleach. Do not spray your frogs with it or put your frogs in a tank that has bleach in it. That is common sense. It is not for just getting rid of parasites for QT, the frog can also get bacterial infections from inproper cleaning/sterilization of a tank. So whether or not my frogs have or do not have hookworms, the cleaning process would be the same for me.

This is going to sound bad to most people, but is the truth. Some exposure to bacteria and other pathogens is actually good. Now I am not saying that people should improperly cleanse their frogs enclosure. Like us the build up immunities through exposure. Parasites of course don't quite count because the only immunity to them is something that is found to be inedible or a deterrent. Kind of like how Garlic and Hot pepper eating prevents mosquitos and ticks, but bacteria and viruses have to be present to create resistance. This is what strengthens the frogs immune system. If the entire tank is always germ free(which is impossible) and the frog never gets exposed to such things then it will be at a disadvantage when it actually does get sick. Wipe Out contains alcohol which can be smelled unmistakably when sprayed. Alcohol is a disinfectant with killing properties that don't cease until the alcohol evaporates. Bleach loses its disinfecting properties the very moment it comes in contact with organic matter, but is still toxic to animals. It could be argued that both are equally as good as the other in disinfecting as the y both kill in the same way and both lose the ability to do so rather quickly.

Either could be used in a serious scrub down. Just one is more messy than the other. Germs of course mutate and build up immunities as well(ex. the Flu) People who use hand sanitizer all the time can become sick and are more likely to due to the fact that they don't actually get exposed to pathogens like someone who just washes their hands with soap and hot water. Super germ are created all the time because they must adapt like we do to survive.

I hope this is understood and not taken as me saying that its ok to not clean your frogs home properly, but there is no one picking up behind them nor washing their environment down with antibacterial and fungicides in their natural setting. It all comes down to when you come in contact with your frog. Make sure you're hands are clean and YES definitely disinfect, but either cleanser is just as good as the other as long as used directly and of course while using common sense.

[GrifTheGreat]

GriftheGreat is spot on.
wipe out is a really good product and they also have mite off that works like a charm if you have a mite problem in your cage. its a little more expensive but takes away the labor of rinsing with hot water. the only things i disinfect in the cage with a bleach ratio is the water bowls.

Mite off isn't safe for amphibians. Its made for reptiles. I will never use bleach in their water dishes ever. Risky. I just rinse them out with really scalding hot water then wipe them dry with paper towels. That kills anything.