HELP !!! Parasitic worms found in my WC Bufo alvarius toads

[jacuoco88]

While I was waiting for the vets reply, I did some research and no matter whether they're hookworms, roundworms, nematodes, etc the drug named Panacur C (fenbendazole) is a broad spectrum anti-microbial which will kill them all. And it's inexpensive. So I'll check it out at Petco tonight or 1-800- petmeds.
You're right they can be bred in captivity. The female lays about 8000 eggs and the time-period between egg, tadpole and toadling is very short to coincide with the short rainy season in the Sonoran Desert. As for the other matter, you don't need to synthesize the drug, their body does. Their parotid glands produce a venom (bufotenin) and an hallucinogen (DMAE or something like that) thats then smoked. The "toad licking" stories you've probably heard about are BS spread by the media and law enforcement. Anyway, toads are one of the few pets not banned in NYC. And they eat out of my hand, so I'm keeping them. They're really cute and only cost me $50 each (1 male & 1 female).

[mrzoggs]

doubt you will find the medicine in petsmart. id send a fecal to dr frye or see if you can purchase the medicine from him without sending in a fecal...

[jacuoco88]

doubt you will find the medicine in petsmart. id send a fecal to dr frye or see if you can purchase the medicine from him without sending in a fecal...

I already checked 1800petmeds.com and they sell it in small amounts for about $7. Truthfully, I'm not trying to spend a fortune on a vet when this drug kills about every endo-parasite in existence. I can even use it on my Arachnids and centipedes. But I'll check Petco's website or call before going.

[arielgasca420]

some guy in colorado was caught with a lab for this toad. it was a lab to "milk" the toad. I do want to do more research on this toad. mainly because it dwells in CA

[mrzoggs]

oh wow i just googled. i didnt realize it made DMT. that is the strongest hallucinagen known to man from what i hear.

[arielgasca420]

There is DMT in all living things, including plants, but only certain animals can actually synthesis it within their bodies, such as the Bufo alvarius. in my own personal opinion I call this the conscious chemical because it makes you very aware of your surroundings. Certain drugs like Iowaska is derived from a tree's root in the Amazon. This is why I believe plants have levels of communication between one another and, as crazy as it sounds, have some level of consciousness.
Drugs have always amazed me, but DMT is by far the most intricate and interesting.

[mrzoggs]

dmt releases itself in a massive amount when you die. it IS the afterlife. so being able to experience it before you die somewhat amazes me.

[arielgasca420]

dmt releases itself in a massive amount when you die. it IS the afterlife. so being able to experience it before you die somewhat amazes me.

that is also very true. not a lot of people know that. It is why they think peoples life flashes before their eyes in a near death experience

[jacuoco88]

There is DMT in all living things, including plants, but only certain animals can actually synthesis it within their bodies, such as the Bufo alvarius. in my own personal opinion I call this the conscious chemical because it makes you very aware of your surroundings. Certain drugs like Iowaska is derived from a tree's root in the Amazon. This is why I believe plants have levels of communication between one another and, as crazy as it sounds, have some level of consciousness.
Drugs have always amazed me, but DMT is by far the most intricate and interesting.

Please don't rely completely on what they say on the erowid.com site. They appear to be a bunch of old, hippie burnouts. There's more useful info available. Also there's a guy on YouTube (google "foose" and "Bufo alvarius") who I've spoken to and he's very knowledgeable about most exotic animals.

[mrzoggs]

very nice man. thanks for the info. the usually sell it by the tablespoon. im gonna have to check the price differences and see which is cheaper. its a good thing to have around for amphibians.


sorry to hijack the thread previosuly. i knew this stuff came from some frogs, but that was before i was into frogs. neat to know that the frog is available to people.

[arielgasca420]

Please don't rely completely on what they say on the erowid.com site. They appear to be a bunch of old, hippie burnouts. There's more useful info available. Also there's a guy on YouTube (google "foose" and "Bufo alvarius") who I've spoken to and he's very knowledgeable about most exotic animals.

Trust me, my information does not come from this website. Most of my information comes from science articles and documentaries. I thought you might enjoy some extra reading on the subject. the link I gave you was in response to a wall street journal article. I am personally not into the hallucinogenic drugs myself. I am just so fascinated on the science behind it rather than the recreational uses.

[jacuoco88]

UPDATE: I emailed Dr. Frye yesterday and he asked me to send photos of the worms. So I made a short video using my iPad showing about 8 of the worms removed from the fecal matter. I put a penny next to them for size reference. I didn't hear back from the Doc til this morning and he wrote "That's crazy. Those aren't hookworms or nematodes. They look like maggots.". He asked me if they are that "mobile" right after coming out the toad, because in the video, they're going berserk. This whole episode has me really creeped out because I think the maggots came from the raw Angus beef I fed them. I ate the same meat, albeit, well cooked. He said the Panacur would kill the maggots too. I had already ordered some from Amazon.com last night (Panacur C - fenbendazole). It came out to only $7 w/shipping. Can't beat that. I have to do more research because I was under the impression that maggots aren't parasites because they can only feed on dead flesh. ​

[KingCam]

Fascinating thread!

[Wormwood]

It might also have simply been the meat. Even raw meat, for human consumption often has various parasites from the cattle or other stock animal in them. It's why your never susposed to eat raw beef or pork. Feeding the raw meat directly to the animal, it could have entered the toad and took root there.