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    Well, mixed news tonight. I took him out for another soak as he still seems a bit lopsided but no apparent lumpy areas -- was more active during the soak, wanting out, so only did it for a few minutes before putting him back in his home. He sat in the water bowl for a little bit (with fresh water) then I tried to tong feed him a small cricket -- after a lot of teasing, he ate it. Less than a minute later, he was straining to poop, and was doing that every little bit for about 10 - 15 minutes. Not sure what's up with that? Now it's back in it's usual corner and I don't see any poop. Here a picture from tonight -- this one was taken without a flash but turned out pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emandkel View Post
    Well, mixed news tonight. I took him out for another soak as he still seems a bit lopsided but no apparent lumpy areas -- was more active during the soak, wanting out, so only did it for a few minutes before putting him back in his home. He sat in the water bowl for a little bit (with fresh water) then I tried to tong feed him a small cricket -- after a lot of teasing, he ate it. Less than a minute later, he was straining to poop, and was doing that every little bit for about 10 - 15 minutes. Not sure what's up with that? Now it's back in it's usual corner and I don't see any poop. Here a picture from tonight -- this one was taken without a flash but turned out pretty well.

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    Mine recently had a pretty bad impaction. She stayed sort of bloated for a day or so after it passed. I think that happens when it stays in their system too long. Soaking seemed to help it go down quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emandkel View Post
    Well, mixed news tonight. I took him out for another soak as he still seems a bit lopsided but no apparent lumpy areas -- was more active during the soak, wanting out, so only did it for a few minutes before putting him back in his home. He sat in the water bowl for a little bit (with fresh water) then I tried to tong feed him a small cricket -- after a lot of teasing, he ate it. Less than a minute later, he was straining to poop, and was doing that every little bit for about 10 - 15 minutes. Not sure what's up with that? Now it's back in it's usual corner and I don't see any poop. Here a picture from tonight -- this one was taken without a flash but turned out pretty well.

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    They will strain a little when moving more poop down their bowels. He probably has more inside that he's working back. Just keep an eye on him and make sure all is well. Don't offer anymore food for a day to see if anymore passes. If he begins to swell up and has a hard spot shown them there is still a blockage.


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    This little one continues to have issues with passing poop. Tonight I saw it with it's anus stuffed full of coco fiber / poop just sitting there, not straining but looked bloated. Gave it a soak but no outputand no straining. Until it learns to tong feed reliably, should I change the substrate to (wet) paper towels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by emandkel View Post
    This little one continues to have issues with passing poop. Tonight I saw it with it's anus stuffed full of coco fiber / poop just sitting there, not straining but looked bloated. Gave it a soak but no outputand no straining. Until it learns to tong feed reliably, should I change the substrate to (wet) paper towels?
    You might want to or just take the frog out and place it in a container with moist paper towels to feed and then place it back home once it has eaten.


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    I'm afraid this little frog looks like it needs a vet visit. It is VERY bloated. I'm very worried about it. Hopefully, it will poop tonight and will be ok in the morning, but if not, I'm going to have to find a vet that will see it -- a few obstacles to overcome here to even get to a vet includes getting off of work, which may or may not be ok as the department I work in is already short a few people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emandkel View Post
    I'm afraid this little frog looks like it needs a vet visit. It is VERY bloated. I'm very worried about it. Hopefully, it will poop tonight and will be ok in the morning, but if not, I'm going to have to find a vet that will see it -- a few obstacles to overcome here to even get to a vet includes getting off of work, which may or may not be ok as the department I work in is already short a few people.
    All the bloating could be caused by impaction, internal bacterial infection, or Toxing out syndrome. A vet is probably your best shot. Do not feed it anymore until you figure out exactly what is wrong.


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    You might want to or just take the frog out and place it in a container with moist paper towels to feed and then place it back home once it has eaten.
    This is what i do to all 4 of mine, a little work but gives me peace of mind.

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    A quick (or maybe not) update:

    I think something is still wrong with the frog and I do not know what it is. With my work schedule, it is difficult to get to a vet during normal business hours. There is no way I can get to a vet until Saturday and the exotic vets I've called have no openings on Saturday. I've emailed Dr. Frye explaining what has happened and is happening yesterday and have not heard back yet.

    The frog's bloating went down by morning. It still had/has a "full" looking body which appears to be mainly fluid. I don't know if that is normal or not. But it is not acting normally, as least as far as burying itself as it was before -- it is mainly just on top of the substrate. Tonight I took it out for a lukewarm bath and the frog got bloated again -- seems to be retaining fluid I think. It jumps a bit funny too, like it is weak and also lands with it's back legs out a bit versus tucked in. I had thought maybe a calcium/vitamin deficiency as the frog has only once eaten in front of me (unless forced) and tends to come out after midnight or so to eat. By that time the crickets in the enclosure probably have lost the dusting. There may be a slight curvature of the spine at its back that may be a cause of some issues if it is curved.

    I've bred/kept/raised many small animals in the past several years and mainly rely on self-treatment if necessary, including some meds. But I will take a small animal to a vet when necessary which was rare, despite parental resistance for me spending that money on an animal that could be "replaced" for less cost than a vet visit.

    Anyway, at this point I can only self-treat it to the best of my ability/knowledge until I can 1) get it seen by a vet if still necessary, and/or 2) hear back from Dr. Frye on what could be wrong and go from there. Or maybe the frog is getting better -- just don't know about the bloating thing. It seemed stronger tonight than last night.

    I'll update when I have more news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emandkel View Post
    A quick (or maybe not) update:

    I think something is still wrong with the frog and I do not know what it is. With my work schedule, it is difficult to get to a vet during normal business hours. There is no way I can get to a vet until Saturday and the exotic vets I've called have no openings on Saturday. I've emailed Dr. Frye explaining what has happened and is happening yesterday and have not heard back yet.

    The frog's bloating went down by morning. It still had/has a "full" looking body which appears to be mainly fluid. I don't know if that is normal or not. But it is not acting normally, as least as far as burying itself as it was before -- it is mainly just on top of the substrate. Tonight I took it out for a lukewarm bath and the frog got bloated again -- seems to be retaining fluid I think. It jumps a bit funny too, like it is weak and also lands with it's back legs out a bit versus tucked in. I had thought maybe a calcium/vitamin deficiency as the frog has only once eaten in front of me (unless forced) and tends to come out after midnight or so to eat. By that time the crickets in the enclosure probably have lost the dusting. There may be a slight curvature of the spine at its back that may be a cause of some issues if it is curved.

    I've bred/kept/raised many small animals in the past several years and mainly rely on self-treatment if necessary, including some meds. But I will take a small animal to a vet when necessary which was rare, despite parental resistance for me spending that money on an animal that could be "replaced" for less cost than a vet visit.

    Anyway, at this point I can only self-treat it to the best of my ability/knowledge until I can 1) get it seen by a vet if still necessary, and/or 2) hear back from Dr. Frye on what could be wrong and go from there. Or maybe the frog is getting better -- just don't know about the bloating thing. It seemed stronger tonight than last night.

    I'll update when I have more news.
    They do tend to bloat up when they absorb water after a soak, but when placed in warm or Luke warm water they usually urinate and most of the bloated appearance goes away. I wish I knew more, but I'm not there to observe the frog and it behavior. I truly hope you can find more help for him.


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