Question about green apples

[mikesfrogs]

Yes they are green apples. Most people including myself that have purchased the hybrids have lost them all before even sub-adult size. They have some health issues.

[Pluke]

Yes they are green apples. Most people including myself that have purchased the hybrids have lost them all before even sub-adult size. They have some health issues.

I'll vouch for this comment, I actually got the Green Apple I have now for free because it has health issues. It hasn't once ate on it's own and I basically have to help him shed. He's a beautiful frog, but he has bone problems, definitely has something wrong with his spine and has trouble moving his front legs, he flails, doesn't jump. I can't say this for all Green Apples, but mine definitely has issues.. Listen to mike, he knows his stuff.

BTW, Bowser I see that you live in Northville, have you ever been to the Taylor Reptile expo? I went to the July one.. it was pretty cool, not many pacman frogs but that's where I got my Green apple and Green Cranwelli. I didn't see any other kinds, but I was told they do show up there. The show is the second saturday of every month.

[IvoryReptiles]

We avoid the green apples......the pairing of the two is obviously not the best idea.
We've lost 2 out of 3 we started with....and the 3rd, well, we affectionately call it "Hatchet Face" now. Let me show you why....

This is Hatchet Face when it was called GrannySmith.....



And this is a few months later.........



No, it isn't MBD, it is what happens to the Green Apples........not to mention the scoliosis and paralysis of some of the legs. We raised it to this point and I am a sucker and since it is not showing signs of pain, I will continue to keep it as a pet my little Hatchet Face.

[mikesfrogs]

I have a few pets over here too. Its sad when they can't act normal and have health issues.

[BowserFrog]

Thats a real bummer. I know they are not very popular but I still enjoy hybrids

[Aaronhan]

all the green apples are from Ceratophrys joazeirensis x Ceratophrys cranwelli?

I think maybe some green apples , selective breeding from C.cranwelli...

[GrifTheGreat]

all the green apples are from Ceratophrys joazeirensis x Ceratophrys cranwelli?

I think maybe some green apples , selective breeding from C.cranwelli...

They're all a hybrid of Joazeirensis X Cranwelli. Mike is trying a breeding project to create Cranwellies that appear like green apples, but are not a hybrid.

[Aaronhan]

I see.. wow..
what's type of this green apples? I have no idea...

[motiszm]

I definitely lean more towards the purist view point when it comes to hybrids. I'm all for Line breeding to get interesting colors, so long as the animals stay strong and healthy, but I don't really understand the drive for producing hybrids. I like cornutas and caatingas better than their cranwelli hybrids. I guess I've been poisoned against hybridization though by seeing all of the ball python hybrid monstrosities.

[BCS275]

So much for the theory of hybrid vigor, at least with that particular hybrid. Sad but interesting.