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    dadmccabe
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    I bought some Jungle Mix and noticed it was missing a few essentials from the ABG recipe. So, I decided maybe I'd try to mix a "healthy" soil substrate myself. I found organic sphagnum at home depot s well as this stuff (see link) which seems to be "clean" and contain beneficial ingrediants. I have such a hard time trusting anything that isn't "made for" pets... Special Orchid Mix-5002 at The Home Depot

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    I would take out the charcoal and sponge rock (perlite?) if you will be potting it in a place that your pet can get to. you definitely do not want them accidentally ingesting charcoal or sponge rock.
    in my opinion I would put the pot in a glass container so that if anything leaches out (after fertilizing) than it cannot reach your pet.
    "organic" is a tricky word that some horticulturists (like my professor) do not like to use.
    I trust fox farms (which is organic), but I am not so certain about a brand like better-gro.
    I never plant directly into the substrate. I always keep them in containers with their own organic soil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arielgasca420 View Post
    I would take out the charcoal and sponge rock (perlite?) if you will be potting it in a place that your pet can get to. you definitely do not want them accidentally ingesting charcoal or sponge rock.
    in my opinion I would put the pot in a glass container so that if anything leaches out (after fertilizing) than it cannot reach your pet.
    "organic" is a tricky word that some horticulturists (like my professor) do not like to use.
    I trust fox farms (which is organic), but I am not so certain about a brand like better-gro.
    I never plant directly into the substrate. I always keep them in containers with their own organic soil.
    I agree. "I never plant directly into the substrate. I always keep them in containers with their own organic soil."
    Re-pot the plants into small nursery containers ( into tropical soil / coco fiber) outside the enclosure, and wait.
    Let the fertilizers and/or pesticides grow out for a couple of weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    I agree.
    Re-pot the plants into small nursery containers ( into tropical soil / coco fiber) outside the enclosure, and wait.
    Let the fertilizers and/or pesticides grow out for a couple of weeks.
    The best way to speed up this process is to fertilize for a few days and flush out with distilled water. give your orchid a nice bath before putting it back in the enclosure.
    the good thing about flushing orchids is that there is nothing in the sphagnum moss or bark that will be significantly lost.
    you can also use stones (or glass fish beads) with your sphagnum moss too instead of bark. just a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by arielgasca420 View Post
    The best way to speed up this process is to fertilize for a few days and flush out with distilled water. give your orchid a nice bath before putting it back in the enclosure.
    the good thing about flushing orchids is that there is nothing in the sphagnum moss or bark that will be significantly lost.
    you can also use stones (or glass fish beads) with your sphagnum moss too instead of bark. just a thought
    dadmccabe,
    I'm not so sure we can "seed up" this process".
    I would suggest re-potting w/coco fiber, no fertilizer of any kind ( regardless of how safe it says -it is ) ,and WAIT about 2 weeks before exposing a frog to the the plant. I do not think you should use the "orchid mix" from HD.
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    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

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    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    dadmccabe
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    I didn't suggest speeding things up. Question: doesn't ABG contain charcoal(among other things)?? Josh's Frogs cites ABG as part of their substrate formula? Ps, just asking - not challenging previous remarks

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