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    Quote Originally Posted by littlewac View Post
    omg did you not see my last post i just said i understand and i was going out to look for someone to care for him talk about rude
    Done sitting silent......

    YOU are an ignorant, rude, idiotic person. You are also childish. Everyone here has tried to help your frog and all you can do is argue with them?
    Yeah, you need not own ANY living thing at all. You aren't worthy.

    Am I being rude?? YOU BETTCHA!! It's exactly what you deserve. Mind you, this is coming from me, not anyone else in the forum.

    Admins, if i am being out of line, I understand if I am given a warning or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlewac View Post
    ...I HAVE NO ONE TO WATCH HIM and I'm not okay with giving him to someone I never met
    Wait, so you're okay leaving him alone with him almost certainly dying, but your not okay with someone willing to take your frog in and care for him while your gone?
    Wow. I really don't understand your logic there. I hope you figure out what to do. Good luck, for the frogs sake.

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    Ivory beat me to it, you are just as rude and ignorant as they come. I'll still offer to help for the sake of your frog if you're around the eastern boarder of PA, but you really need an attitude adjustment and learn to have some respect for the forum members and the life of your frogs.

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    I'm gonna be real here...

    We're talking about an animal that goes into extended periods of dormancy in the wild that can last for several months. Why cant he just do the same thing someone would do if they were brumating their frogs for breeding?
    Ive had pacman frogs that went dormant and went of food for more than two weeks, burying themselves deep in the soil and not surfacing all on there own.

    Provided that the frog is healthy, the temperatures are lowered down and there is a very very deep and moist layer of coco fiber, I really dont think it will phase the frog much at all.

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    So you think it would be good for this kid to try forced brumation when the basic skills aren't there yet? Disagree

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    I'm gonna be real here...

    We're talking about an animal that goes into extended periods of dormancy in the wild that can last for several months. Why cant he just do the same thing someone would do if they were brumating their frogs for breeding?
    Ive had pacman frogs that went dormant and went of food for more than two weeks, burying themselves deep in the soil and not surfacing all on there own.

    Provided that the frog is healthy, the temperatures are lowered down and there is a very very deep and moist layer of coco fiber, I really dont think it will phase the frog much at all.
    Gee Ra, I guess you missed the part where it said there would be NO a/c running and the house would be in the high 90's then?? Not quite a cooling down, right? And Morgan is right......you think this kid can pull off a forced brumation if he doesn't know simple care?? It's usually dome under supervision at our house anyway.....we monitor them. Mostly because we care if they make it through. This kid also stated that he has done this exact same thing before and the frog died.....pretty sure this is history repeating itself. Personally, I would advise this child to wait until he/she is mature enough to handle the care of a frog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvoryReptiles View Post
    Gee Ra, I guess you missed the part where it said there would be NO a/c running and the house would be in the high 90's then?? Not quite a cooling down, right? And Morgan is right......you think this kid can pull off a forced brumation if he doesn't know simple care?? It's usually dome under supervision at our house anyway.....we monitor them. Mostly because we care if they make it through. This kid also stated that he has done this exact same thing before and the frog died.....pretty sure this is history repeating itself. Personally, I would advise this child to wait until he/she is mature enough to handle the care of a frog.
    Oh I thought he was turning the heat up to 80 in his house to keep the frog warm while he was gone, I didnt realize he probably doesnt have an a/c. No, that isn't quite a cooling down, and I'll just ignore the condescending nature of your remarks here.
    On the note about brumation, I was just raising the question, these are large hardy frogs after all that are evolved to deal with drastically changing seasonal conditions so I think its unlikely that the frog would die after two weeks if the right conditions were met before he left. That is, if those conditions were met. And they really arent all that hard to meet, unless you dont have an a/c unit or a cool basement.

    He stated last time that he attempted to take his frog with on vacation on a long road trip which seems ridiculous, but he doesnt want to repeat that scenario obviously.

    What I find odd is that there isnt any body that can at least come over every couple of days to mist the tank and change the water dish. Like, nobody at all. That seems odd to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvoryReptiles View Post
    Personally, I would advise this child to wait until he/she is mature enough to handle the care of a frog.
    so very much agree with that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra View Post
    Oh I thought he was turning the heat up to 80 in his house to keep the frog warm while he was gone, I didnt realize he probably doesnt have an a/c. No, that isn't quite a cooling down, and I'll just ignore the condescending nature of your remarks here.
    On the note about brumation, I was just raising the question, these are large hardy frogs after all that are evolved to deal with drastically changing seasonal conditions so I think its unlikely that the frog would die after two weeks if the right conditions were met before he left. That is, if those conditions were met. And they really arent all that hard to meet, unless you dont have an a/c unit or a cool basement.

    He stated last time that he attempted to take his frog with on vacation on a long road trip which seems ridiculous, but he doesnt want to repeat that scenario obviously.

    What I find odd is that there isnt any body that can at least come over every couple of days to mist the tank and change the water dish. Like, nobody at all. That seems odd to me.
    Ra the problem is that we have no idea what conditions the frog is kept in or its overall health. They MUST be of a good weight and of the right age to brumate. If nothing has been prepared correctly to start brumation the frog will still die. A lot of frogs that are allowed to aestivate or brumate under a year of age never wake up.

    As I said we have no idea whether the frog is even healthy enough to even think about brumation and yes this particular person lacks any necessary experience and or ability to allow the frog to undergo this process. It would still be a death sentence for the frog.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Ra the problem is that we have no idea what conditions the frog is kept in or its overall health. They MUST be of a good weight and of the right age to brumate. If nothing has been prepared correctly to start brumation the frog will still die. A lot of frogs that are allowed to aestivate or brumate under a year of age never wake up.

    As I said we have no idea whether the frog is even healthy enough to even think about brumation and yes this particular person lacks any necessary experience and or ability to allow the frog to undergo this process. It would still be a death sentence for the frog.

    Just reading the first post it sounded like the frog was probably not being kept warm enough, so I'd guess it hasn't been eating well... Regardless, the person seems to have stopped replying. They've probably already left. I just hope they found someone to take care of it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVirginiana View Post
    Just reading the first post it sounded like the frog was probably not being kept warm enough, so I'd guess it hasn't been eating well... Regardless, the person seems to have stopped replying. They've probably already left. I just hope they found someone to take care of it..
    As do I.


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    this guy is a scumbag i hope he dies a slow death just like the frog he left behind...and yes i am not Kidding you dont like it i dont care =come see me=

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    I think this whole thing unintentionally got way to deep... All we can really do at this point is hope someone is caring for this frog and if not, he pulls through. Placing blame and arguing back and forth honestly won't solve anything and due to the attitude of the OP, is falling on deaf ears.

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