Does my pac have vision problems? Advice, tips??

[DVirginiana]

If the worms are dye and chemical free they should be fine.

You may want to take Trevor to the Vet for a checkup. Also have a fecal exam done. Something is not right. Does she get exposes to UVB light a lot from maybe sunlight?

Yeah, the worms are dye and chemical free.

I would really love to do that, but I just got married and moved into a new place and neither of us have started work yet... If I can find an exotic vet willing to give me advice over the phone, maybe. Like, if it was something treatable I would definitely stretch the budget to swing an office visit, but I just can't do the thing where I bring the frog in and get vague answers and maybe have to bring it back multiple times.

There's one window in the room, but I imagine she gets very little light from it. I do have a UVB light I use for my turtle, but his tank is on the floor and Trevor's is on a table. She doesn't get direct light from the turtle's lamp, but she's probably getting a little exposure. The turtle's setup wasn't in the same room as Trevor's until I moved, so that is something that's just happened within the last week. Could that be the issue? I didn't know UVB could cause problems... What does it do to them?

His eyes were dilating and constricting like normal again when I checked last. At least that's good. Trevor has never been super healthy, and it's always been a struggle to get her to eat well for more than a week or two at a time... Do you think this could have been going on longer since the pupil thing seems to only be happening for a minute or so at a time?

[IvoryReptiles]

There was no tone in my post. I wasn't accusing you of anything you didn't do.....I simply asked the reasoning behind it. You stated the frog took a massive dump of nothing but coco fiber. Seeing that, common sense says something needs to be changed.
It's not accusing, it's fact. You threw your extraneous details at me after my original post because you felt I had a "Tone"...... the details do matter. The reasons are your own business, but the situation was all I needed.
What you are describing sounds like toxic shock...............I would recommend using de-chlorinated tap water. Most bottled waters are tap water....period. Whatever you do, don't use distilled water.
Have a camera on your phone? Take some pictures and post them if possible.

[GrifTheGreat]

Yeah, the worms are dye and chemical free.

I would really love to do that, but I just got married and moved into a new place and neither of us have started work yet... If I can find an exotic vet willing to give me advice over the phone, maybe. Like, if it was something treatable I would definitely stretch the budget to swing an office visit, but I just can't do the thing where I bring the frog in and get vague answers and maybe have to bring it back multiple times.

There's one window in the room, but I imagine she gets very little light from it. I do have a UVB light I use for my turtle, but his tank is on the floor and Trevor's is on a table. She doesn't get direct light from the turtle's lamp, but she's probably getting a little exposure. The turtle's setup wasn't in the same room as Trevor's until I moved, so that is something that's just happened within the last week. Could that be the issue? I didn't know UVB could cause problems... What does it do to them?

His eyes were dilating and constricting like normal again when I checked last. At least that's good. Trevor has never been super healthy, and it's always been a struggle to get her to eat well for more than a week or two at a time... Do you think this could have been going on longer since the pupil thing seems to only be happening for a minute or so at a time?

I'd say there could be some problems from perhaps your parents not following all your instructions. Multiple things possibly at work here. The UVB wouldn't pass farther than 12" at least in most bulbs. Plus it doesn't pass through multiple layers of glass well. UVB can cause blindness and skin issues if they are exposed to it to much. A build up of Vitamin D3 could cause issues from too much UVB Radiation.

For now I would keep a close eye on her make sure everything is kept clean.

Do you clean with bleach??

[DVirginiana]

I'm having a hard time getting more than one quote in my response...

Jessica:
I'll see if I can get a picture from my phone that is decent enough to actually see anything. The bloating thing seemed to go away after last night's soak. Other than that, she looks completely normal except when her pupils are blown. I'll try and catch that happening again.

UGH, I had asked on a separate frog forum about that when I first got Trevor, and was told spring water was fine to use. I can't believe I've been using something that could harm her all this time. Prime water purifier should be fine, right? It's pretty high quality, and works great for fish.
I've never used distilled.

I'd say there could be some problems from perhaps your parents not following all your instructions. Multiple things possibly at work here. The UVB wouldn't pass farther than 12" at least in most bulbs. Plus it doesn't pass through multiple layers of glass well. UVB can cause blindness and skin issues if they are exposed to it to much. A build up of Vitamin D3 could cause issues from too much UVB Radiation.

For now I would keep a close eye on her make sure everything is kept clean.

Do you clean with bleach??

I think it's probably too far away to be causing the problem though if it doesn't go much further than 12 inches... I might rearrange the angle of turtle's light just out of paranoia though.
I'm hoping that a tank cleaning might improve things.
I've never used bleach to clean, only vinegar.

[GrifTheGreat]

I'm having a hard time getting more than one quote in my response...

Jessica:
I'll see if I can get a picture from my phone that is decent enough to actually see anything. The bloating thing seemed to go away after last night's soak. Other than that, she looks completely normal except when her pupils are blown. I'll try and catch that happening again.

UGH, I had asked on a separate frog forum about that when I first got Trevor, and was told spring water was fine to use. I can't believe I've been using something that could harm her all this time. Prime water purifier should be fine, right? It's pretty high quality, and works great for fish.
I've never used distilled.



I think it's probably too far away to be causing the problem though if it doesn't go much further than 12 inches... I might rearrange the angle of turtle's light just out of paranoia though.
I'm hoping that a tank cleaning might improve things.
I've never used bleach to clean, only vinegar.

Good bleach can be deadly if not completely washed out. Prime works very well.

[IvoryReptiles]

We use Prime and it is the best!!
The bloat may be a bacterial infection. The frog may have parasites on board as well.
The problem here is that none of us are vets and we can try to narrow down the problems, but in the end, the best bet would be a vet......do some research and call a few and see if they are willing to give advice over the phone.
I hope it all gets solved soon!!

[DVirginiana]

We use Prime and it is the best!!
The bloat may be a bacterial infection. The frog may have parasites on board as well.
The problem here is that none of us are vets and we can try to narrow down the problems, but in the end, the best bet would be a vet......do some research and call a few and see if they are willing to give advice over the phone.
I hope it all gets solved soon!!

The good news is the weird bloating hasn't happened again since that first night.
I'll look up some in the area and see if they'll help out over the phone. At least there should be some exotic vets around since I'm in a larger city now. If I get any helpful info I'll put it up.

[GrifTheGreat]

The good news is the weird bloating hasn't happened again since that first night.
I'll look up some in the area and see if they'll help out over the phone. At least there should be some exotic vets around since I'm in a larger city now. If I get any helpful info I'll put it up.

Hopefully you can find a good vet. :-) You should be able to have a fecal exam done by almost any vet, even if they don't see exotic animals (parasites are parasites after all). Most vets will let you drop off a fecal sample and they'll examine it for a small fee (varies depending on what type of test method they use and whether they do it in house or have to send it out). I would call around and see who is willing to do that. Keep us posted.

[Ra]

I'm having a hard time getting more than one quote in my response...

Jessica:
I'll see if I can get a picture from my phone that is decent enough to actually see anything. The bloating thing seemed to go away after last night's soak. Other than that, she looks completely normal except when her pupils are blown. I'll try and catch that happening again.

UGH, I had asked on a separate frog forum about that when I first got Trevor, and was told spring water was fine to use. I can't believe I've been using something that could harm her all this time. Prime water purifier should be fine, right? It's pretty high quality, and works great for fish.
I've never used distilled.



I think it's probably too far away to be causing the problem though if it doesn't go much further than 12 inches... I might rearrange the angle of turtle's light just out of paranoia though.
I'm hoping that a tank cleaning might improve things.
I've never used bleach to clean, only vinegar.

No spring water is spring water, it comes from a spring and I have known lots of frog users that have used it with success and its fine. In fact it may be better than tap water depending on the quality of your tap water. SOme tap water is no good and ifg you use a water softener then you probably dont want to use tap water either, I dont know for sure, I wouldnt.

[DVirginiana]

No spring water is spring water, it comes from a spring and I have known lots of frog users that have used it with success and its fine. In fact it may be better than tap water depending on the quality of your tap water. SOme tap water is no good and ifg you use a water softener then you probably dont want to use tap water either, I dont know for sure, I wouldnt.

Well, it's good to know I haven't been poisoning her. She seems to be be doing well with tap water treated with Prime as well.