keeping reptiles with tree frogs?

[sinni]

hi guys, so ive had my heart set on tree frogs for a long time now and ive finally got my self a 3-4ft exo terra viv and im kitting it all out and im on youtube looking at some whites tree frogs and theres a guy on there that keeps crested geckos with his whites, i love crested's and i wondering whether it would be alright to keep these together aslong as they are all adults to avoid eating each other, all the set up's and requirements are the same. please let me know guys

[Bolisnide]

It's best not to mix them in the same enclosure.
Maybe get another vivarium for the white's?

[sinni]

why though? everyone says like dont mix them but nobody gives a reason for not keeping them together? im not having a go i just asking why not?

[arielgasca420]

probably for the same reason you wouldnt keep guinea pigs and rabbits together. rabbits (50%)can carry a virus called pasturella which will lie dormant in their system, but can quickly spread and be fatal to a guinea pig if left untreated. The same thing happens with mixing reptiles and amphibians. I cant give you a concrete example, like pasturella, but you never know what exactly new diseases and parasites you could be introducing and what reptiles are susceptible to.
I have seen frogs mixed together and geckos mixed together, but never frogs and geckos in the same enclosure. I guess its just one of those lines people dont risk to cross.
You can mix however you wish, but thats a gamble you will have to take and see how it turns out.

[sinni]

thanks for that, i shall try and look further into it and let you know what i decide on

[arielgasca420]

let me know because I am always curious to find out about that stuff. people would ask me this question all the time at the shop. I have never had a concrete fact, only personal opinion from other interactions of animals. Dont get me wrong, I keep my guinea pig and rabbits together, but I made sure they all didnt have pasturella.

[Heatheranne]

Hi sinni. I can tell you I had a bad experience with mixing species, so I'll share it so hopefully you never have this dilemma.

I was at my local mall wandering through the reptile and fish section and saw a red eyed tree frog in with geckos. When I got closer I had noticed the frog had scratch marks all down his back and had patches of dark and light green with some tan rounded spots. I took him out of there and home with me he went. He had infected scratch marks which took a month to heal with tedious care and quarantine home cleaning so he wouldn't get worse and cost me a $182 vet bill, no joke. To this day he still needs force feeding. My vet and I feel he has post traumatic stress. We believe when trying to catch the crickets by both species the frog was injured. I doubt it was intentional by the gecko, just mother natures survival of the fittest. Still not good though.

The same place now has green tree frogs in with them. I have shared with them my concerns. The frogs are always up in the corner and have a dark brown color. They are all crunched together in that corner and are thin. They look stressed.

The reason different species of animals can share the same habitats in the wild is bc the area of the rain forest is huge in comparison to a tank or cage. They learn to stay in their own areas or pass-by as need be, but they are not forced to coexist in a smaller region.

It'd be a lovely tank I'm sure. Though consideration to the less fortunate species should be though of.

Another reason for this concern is bc when I was younger and knew very little of amphibians I had some firebelly toads. They did well. My ex brought home a red spotted newt off a golf course and gave it to my daughter and my husb also found one on the train tracks at work, so we had two. The tank had land and a pond and several caves and hiding areas so I housed them together. I did water changes every week and had a waterfall filter. They all ate crickets. They never fought and shared the space well. They even swam together. The newts ended up dying. I learned the hard way. They both secrete their own toxins. I felt so bad . I did not know at the time that there was a risk. I learned from a friend here after the fact that that was why .

These are just things I've experienced, but have been valuable lessons.

Maybe a split tank with a full glass waterproofed divider might give a similar effect, though the stress factor is still a concern.

Hope this helps...

[Heatheranne]

P.S. Sorry that was such a long post...I tend to be long-winded, lol!