A little new to this need help!

[froggycakes]

I bought an albino pacman frog for me and my girlfriends first pet i love him. Im really not sure what i need to do for him though. the pat person said put moss in his cage but i read not to do so, so i changed it to the cocnut fiber. At first he was eating alot, not a single cricket went bye without him eating it. but after i moved him into a bigger tank (just cause i had it) he kinda quit eating he ate one big cricket and never ate since... that was 2 days ago. The tank is pretty big its a 25 gallon tank but i put a divider in it to make it smaller. Also do i need to be giving the crickets vitamins because the store gives them vitamins all the time so im not to sure if i will over do it. please if you have any advice on what i should do about him eating please help me, im open for all suggestions.

Thanks

[GrifTheGreat]

I bought an albino pacman frog for me and my girlfriends first pet i love him. Im really not sure what i need to do for him though. the pat person said put moss in his cage but i read not to do so, so i changed it to the cocnut fiber. At first he was eating alot, not a single cricket went bye without him eating it. but after i moved him into a bigger tank (just cause i had it) he kinda quit eating he ate one big cricket and never ate since... that was 2 days ago. The tank is pretty big its a 25 gallon tank but i put a divider in it to make it smaller. Also do i need to be giving the crickets vitamins because the store gives them vitamins all the time so im not to sure if i will over do it. please if you have any advice on what i should do about him eating please help me, im open for all suggestions.

Thanks

Yes you need to gut load the crickets, but you can also buy reptile/amphibian multivitamin and calcium supplements. Just lightly dust the crickets with a multivitamin once a week and dust twice a week with a calcium powder that contains Vitamin D3.

Moving him to a larger tank JUST because you have it laying around is what stopped him from eating. He is stressed and now has to readjust to a new home once again. Also a 25 gallon tank is too large. An adult Pacman can live its whole life in a 10 gallon tank. Babies and juveniles should be kept in smaller enclosures until they are large enough for a bigger tank. Medium and large critter keepers are perfect for keeping babies and juveniles because they don't need much space and their food doesn't have to be chased all over the place. Easy access to their food is very important. I would set his old home back up exactly the way it was before you moved him and put him back. Let him be for a day and then offer food once again.

Pacman Frogs do not like change and become stressed very easily. They are extremely sensitive to changes in their environment whether it be consistant climate or a plant out of place that they themselves didn't move. You have to be careful when changing their environment. Do small subtle changes or make the new home look almost identified to the old one so they feel secure and in a place they know. Cover 3 sides of the enclosure for security as well so the frog doesn't feel exposed.

[froggycakes]

well i put a wall up inside of his cage literally shortening the tank to a 5-6 gallon tank maximum, but i also gave him a nice lava rock wich has a cave inside and he has seem to taken a likeing to it, he sits and burrows inside of it all day lol, but he wont move... at all. his other cage is literally a quart size they kept him in a little tupaware bowl with holes in the lid and hand fed crickets to him, so i know he has to love his new cage. im wondering if the reason he isnt eating is due to the fact of the last week we had him, we fed him ALOT every day. think he is just full?

[GrifTheGreat]

well i put a wall up inside of his cage literally shortening the tank to a 5-6 gallon tank maximum, but i also gave him a nice lava rock wich has a cave inside and he has seem to taken a likeing to it, he sits and burrows inside of it all day lol, but he wont move... at all. his other cage is literally a quart size they kept him in a little tupaware bowl with holes in the lid and hand fed crickets to him, so i know he has to love his new cage. im wondering if the reason he isnt eating is due to the fact of the last week we had him, we fed him ALOT every day. think he is just full?

How large is he SVL(Snout to Vent Length)? How old is he? Regardless of how small his first home was he will be stressed when moved to a different home. This is more than likely why he isn't eating. So you said he was Fed by hand? Will he eat from tongs? Try night crawlers to see if he will eat those. They are far more nutritious than crickets.

Also answer these questions for me http://www.frogforum.net/pacman-frog...enclosure.html

[IvoryReptiles]

Yes you need to gut load the crickets, but you can also buy reptile/amphibian multivitamin and calcium supplements. Just lightly dust the crickets with a multivitamin once a week and dust twice a week with a calcium powder that contains Vitamin D3.

Moving him to a larger tank JUST because you have it laying around is what stopped him from eating. He is stressed and now has to readjust to a new home once again. Also a 25 gallon tank is too large. An adult Pacman can live its whole life in a 10 gallon tank. Babies and juveniles should be kept in smaller enclosures until they are large enough for a bigger tank. Medium and large critter keepers are perfect for keeping babies and juveniles because they don't need much space and their food doesn't have to be chased all over the place. Easy access to their food is very important. I would set his old home back up exactly the way it was before you moved him and put him back. Let him be for a day and then offer food once again.

Pacman Frogs do not like change and become stressed very easily. They are extremely sensitive to changes in their environment whether it be consistant climate or a plant out of place that they themselves didn't move. You have to be careful when changing their environment. Do small subtle changes or make the new home look almost identified to the old one so they feel secure and in a place they know. Cover 3 sides of the enclosure for security as well so the frog doesn't feel exposed.

froggycakes

Re: A little new to this need help!
well i put a wall up inside of his cage literally shortening the tank to a 5-6 gallon tank maximum, but i also gave him a nice lava rock wich has a cave inside and he has seem to taken a likeing to it, he sits and burrows inside of it all day lol, but he wont move... at all. his other cage is literally a quart size they kept him in a little tupaware bowl with holes in the lid and hand fed crickets to him, so i know he has to love his new cage. im wondering if the reason he isnt eating is due to the fact of the last week we had him, we fed him ALOT every day. think he is just full?

Did you read ANY of Grif's response to your request for "Any advice"???
If you actually have read posts here, you should have gotten the idea that 25 gallons is way too large for the frog. These are usually CBB frogs and they are NOT secure in large, open spaces. The frog has dug in because it is freaked out. If it has been raised in a small enclosure, change will be stressful. Maybe try a 5 gallon instead. Grif has already addressed other possible issues, I suggest you read the replies and at least acknowledge the advice that was given.
Sorry if I am coming across as rude, but when folks come in asking for advice and then just ignore it.....it gets frustrating.

[arielgasca420]

you have done a good job by coming to this website, but please for future refernce; do research for the sake of the animal you are about to purchase. there is no better way to learn than to come on here and ask questions beforehand so that your setup is perfect for your froggy friend to be acclimated to. The thing with frogs and their mentality is that small spaces is better for them.
Imagine this:think of someone taking you from your cozy home and throwing you in a warehouse with the bare necessities: a hut, water, bread. This would stress you out and you may be hesitant to eat because of this unsure environment. You have to really think like a frog and big spaces scare them easily.
You did mention you put a divider in which may be translucent? if so than put a static cling background or a piece of black paper on it.
albino's should not be provided UVB at any time. Think of their skin to be sensitive like a kid with albanism. you cant put sunscreen on a frog so we just dont provide them with any direct light. they should only have a little bit of natural light inside a south facing room for a photoperiod. frogs should not be kept near windows or air vents. drafts will stress them because the temp flucuates too much.
Hang in there, we are here to help and this forum has answered so many of my questions
It sucks when you have to panic about everything at first. someone gave me a rabbit for my birthday and after 4 days she had bunnies and wouldnt feed them so I became momma rabbit for a month of bottle feeding. that was a tough way to learn but I did my research and have 4 healthy bunnies.

[froggycakes]

the divider is actually a piece of wood that i painted black and i made it to where when he grows it can fit the needed size. he has yet to see the entire tank, the area i have for him in the tank is literally 10in. wide and 1ft. long its not a large space for him at all. but thanks for telling me about the uvb i will be sure to keep him away from the window that shines light directly into his cage. im not trying to be mean if anyone thinks im not taking there advice cause im literally doing almost all of it. yall know alot more than i do when it comes to the saftey of these animals. thanks so much for replying i feel alot better knowing if i have questions i can count on people like yall.

[GrifTheGreat]

the divider is actually a piece of wood that i painted black and i made it to where when he grows it can fit the needed size. he has yet to see the entire tank, the area i have for him in the tank is literally 10in. wide and 1ft. long its not a large space for him at all. but thanks for telling me about the uvb i will be sure to keep him away from the window that shines light directly into his cage. im not trying to be mean if anyone thinks im not taking there advice cause im literally doing almost all of it. yall know alot more than i do when it comes to the saftey of these animals. thanks so much for replying i feel alot better knowing if i have questions i can count on people like yall.

What kind of paint did you use and does it still smell like the paint fumes? If so you need to get it away from him or he may become sick.

What are the temps and humidity levels in his enclosure?

[froggycakes]

i dont know the humidity and no the paint has no smell or fumes it was 100% non toxic. it was like the stuff little kids use for painting. but the temperature says 82 degrees.

[arielgasca420]

I think a lot of novice people on here get tired of seeing the same questions on the forum, but everyone has to start somewhere and a pet store clerk getting paid minimum wage isnt always the best advice. Im not saying they are all wrong but there are so many personal opinions out there and people are only human and will give you wrong info. If you have Any basic husbandry questions than shoot me a personal message and i will help you out. Griff the great and ivory reptiles are there for tougher questions. They have been doing this for a long time and appreciate a challenging inquiry. I interned at a reptile museum and know a little here and there about all different reptiles. Frogs are my passion and i dont want your first time to be a bad one.

[GrifTheGreat]

You MUST HAVE A HUMIDITY GAUGE!!!!! Frogs are dependent on soil moisture, air moisture, and a source of water to bathe in that is shallow. They are tropical so their enclosure must reflect the climate in which they're from. Amphibians must have a humid environment with the exception of a few like Toads who like dryer climates. Lack of humidity can be detrimental to the frogs health. You must have no lower than 70% humidity. The ideal humidity level is 80% and is the best level to maintain. 82° is good for day Time temps, but night Time temp should be no lower than 75° and hover around 78°.

If you do not have a hygrometer in the enclosure you have no idea what air moisture levels are and its not really something you can guess because even if you see condensation on the tank walls that doesn't necessarily mean you have the correct humidity even though many have claimed it to be. Those people of course cannot be certain. You also didn't answer any of the questions I asked above about age of the frog, how large he is or the questions in the link I posted.

Do you de-chlorinate your frogs water for his dish, misting, and water used to expand his substrate or saturate it?

[froggycakes]

i keep his soil really moist but not sopping wet, but i will go out and get a hudity gauge in the morning.
yes i do declhorinate all of his water needs. i dont know how old he is. he is about 1 inch in length he is a little baby. answers to link below
1. 10in wideX 1ft long.
2. 1 albino pacman frog and 6 crickets
3. no humidity gauge but its quite moist in there
4. 82 degrees F
5. regular tap water but dechlorinated
6. compressed coconut fiber
7. just 1 large lava rock with cace inside
8. crickets
9. just found out i have to dust them every other feeding
10. i have a lamp shining down into the tank.
11.heating blanket underneath a towel under the tank.
12. about 1am yesterday to my knoledge
13.wet my hands today and held him and pooped right on my hand. (pretty sure its healthy for him to poop)
14.i will try to upload a pic in a little bit
15. dont know how old he is i know he is a baby
16.for about 1 week
17. captive bread
18. only fed crickets
19.once a day dont want to startle him
20.high traffic area.
21. change his water bowl every day at the end of the day. cleaned his tank once after screwing up and buying the wrong stuff for him to lay on.

i hope this answers all the questions for you to be able to help

[GrifTheGreat]

What kind of light are you using over him? Albinos have more sensitive skin and eyes. If the light is too bright it may stress him and or harm his eyes.

You may want to buy a medium critter keeper to place him in for a while. He is still a baby and a small keeper may make him feel more secure. You can buy a UTH to place on the side of the keeper, but make sure its a Hermit Crab UTH or a Zoo Med UTH item#RH-7. These two are safe for plastic.