Quote Originally Posted by IvoryReptiles View Post
I simply pointed out the cold hard facts Ra........also, pretty sure that my advice is not what would run folks off from this forum.......but your rude and condescending remarks might.
And just for the record, I have an excellent vet that does specialize in exotics/reptiles & amphibians........I did ask his advice about this after filling him in on the situation. He said that if they couldn't get the frog to a vet, the course of action MeTree took was what he would have considered as the best action other than out-right putting the frog down. I agree with him that at least attempting to save the animal is better than letting it sit and suffer a slow death by starvation or damage caused by a foreign object.
You seem to think that you are the only educated person on this forum. You are not. You might want to try helping these folks with advice instead of trolling around just waiting for a tragedy to occur where you can then scold the people involved for not doing what YOU would have done blah, blah, blah. I have yet to see you even attempt to help with advice, but you sure try to act as though you know all. You don't. Get off your High Horse already.
I see your point, but I just dont want to see people visiting the forum and getting the idea that taking the animal to the vet, or even calling one is an outright waste of time.

Some interesting input has come out of the scenario for everybody to learn from; submerging a frog in water can cause it to release items grasped in the mouth, feeding your frogs inside the enclosure can be risky and feeding on a flat smooth surface is probably better, and calling a vet in an animal emergency medical situation should be the first action taken.

Its my opinion that he should have called a vet, if that puts me on a high horse than thats fine. I think most pet owners would agree with that. Even if the vet couldnt help at all, at least he sought proffessional advice first. My criticism really doesn't stretch any further than the fact that he didnt call a vet regarding the course of action taken in light of the problem.

I'd be interested to know what kind of procedure he performed. I'm sure very few frog keepers have ever been in a situation where they have had to perform an emergency edoscopic removal of a foreign object.