please help , giant african bullfrog problem

[frogboy2nd]

I have a pair of adult giant african bullfogs they are in a 3 foot viv with about two three inches of water in it , this morning when i got up my female was swollen up to about double the size and is not moving much , iv taken her out of the water and placed her on her rock but she still hasnt moved or reduced in size if anyone could help i would be very grateful , cheers

[daltar08]

has she pooped recently?

[frogboy2nd]

not noticed , do you think it could be because she is in the water ? i normally have them in eco earth but was told to change it to couple inch of water to start breeding , shes just not moving i can flip her upside down and wont even move a leg but is breathing ok , confused

[daltar08]

dont flip her upsidedown, let her be until we have an idea of whats happening

[frogboy2nd]

ok no worries , i only flipped her because i thought she was dead , wait 2 secs she has just done the biggest piss i have ever seen lol and is starting to go back to normal size , do you think i should get rid of the water ? im going to get some more mice tomorrow give her really good feed , dont want to loose her had them for 6-7 years

[frogboy2nd]

her back end has gone back to normal , front still quite swollen

[GrifTheGreat]

If you don't have a circulation pump and water filtered as well as doing frequent water changes they will get Toxing Out Syndrome from ammonia buildup in the water. I would switch back to Eco Earth. and just use a shallow water source. Separate the sick frog from the others and place her in a hospital tank. Swelling can be an internal bacterial infection. You might want to take her to a vet.

[frogboy2nd]

yer she took biggest wee ever seen , front end still quiet swollen started moving a little , going get eco earth tomorrow and put the tank back , the tank does have a filter and only set the tank up few days ago with the water and the filter , so you think eco earth and cat tray for water ?

[GrifTheGreat]

yer she took biggest wee ever seen , front end still quiet swollen started moving a little , going get eco earth tomorrow and put the tank back , the tank does have a filter and only set the tank up few days ago with the water and the filter , so you think eco earth and cat tray for water ?

That's a good start. Keep a close eye on her.

[frogboy2nd]

thanks guys for all your help ill keep you posted , fingers crossed life will go back to normal tomorrow

[frogboy2nd]

my fat boy , lol didnt know how to flip (noob)

[GrifTheGreat]

my fat boy , lol didnt know how to flip (noob)

That's a big boy.

[frogboy2nd]

cheers dude yer had him a few years now , dont suppose you know anything about dart frogs was thinking about getting a setup with plants and bits but wanted a couple of species in the viv to start breeding , do you know if they can be mixed and what are the hardiest ones to start with

[GrifTheGreat]

cheers dude yer had him a few years now , dont suppose you know anything about dart frogs was thinking about getting a setup with plants and bits but wanted a couple of species in the viv to start breeding , do you know if they can be mixed and what are the hardiest ones to start with

No I don't know much about PDFs, but there are several members that do. If you post in the PDF section someone will chime in.

[frogboy2nd]

no worries thanks again for help shes looking alot better , really odd what happened , ok dont suppose you know about breeding giants at all , been told its nearly impossible but was also told to wait few years , waited put em in water with rain chamber but all this happened, any ideas dude

[GrifTheGreat]

no worries thanks again for help shes looking alot better , really odd what happened , ok dont suppose you know about breeding giants at all , been told its nearly impossible but was also told to wait few years , waited put em in water with rain chamber but all this happened, any ideas dude

No not many people know much about breeding them in captivity. That's part of the reason why they say its impossible. Many people have tried and failed.

[Deac77]

Most believe females won't lay due to the lack of bariatric pressure changes that come with the raining seasons we can't duplicate most people that do breed use hormone injections to make the female lay once she's hit sexual maturity

[frogboy2nd]

ok so today iv changed the viv back to soil and the male is big eyed and going around tank digging holes , the female is looking alot better and colour has returned , has started moving a little , the male has eaten two large mice but the female just keeps nudging hers so didnt know wheather to pick her up and rub the mouses head on her lip like ya do with ornates been bit by her before and it bloody hurts lol , do you think i should leave it till tonight to do that or just get one down her now

[GrifTheGreat]

ok so today iv changed the viv back to soil and the male is big eyed and going around tank digging holes , the female is looking alot better and colour has returned , has started moving a little , the male has eaten two large mice but the female just keeps nudging hers so didnt know wheather to pick her up and rub the mouses head on her lip like ya do with ornates been bit by her before and it bloody hurts lol , do you think i should leave it till tonight to do that or just get one down her now

If she has a bacterial infection or an impaction you do not want to feed her until she's been seen by a specialist. Feeding her may cause worse problems to occur.

[frogboy2nd]

problem is theres no reptile specailists anywhere near me , i live in midle of no where she has taken a turn for the worst today , im gutted