What Kind of PacMan is this?

[Xelas23]

Hello Pacman friends :-)

I have been out of the hobby for a few years and recently bought a red Pacman. I was wondering if it was a "Fantasy Frog Hybrid" due to a few of the pictures in Google Images looking somewhat similar. Any input would be much appreciated. :-)

[Eric Buschman]

Looks to me like an Ornate, but I'm a novice so I wouldn't quote me on that.

[Ivan M]

Yeap RED ORNATE, a nice one at that. good score and welcome back to the hobby. Pacs are addicting. That looks like a high red at that, where did you get him from?

[Ivan M]

To be honest if i am wrong, GRIFFTHEGREAT, or MIKESFROGS will for sure give you a better definition of what you have, those 2 right on this forum are simply TOPS when it comes to PACS, aslo Ivoryreptiles, what ever these 3 keepers/breeders of pacs tell you take it as LAW, they for sure know their stuff and are a WEALTH of help and knowledge.

[GrifTheGreat]

Ivan is spot on. That is definitely a High Red C. Ornata. A very BEAUTIFUL one at that.

Ornates have false eye spots right behind each eye and you can plainly see them in the second pic. Very nice find.

[IvoryReptiles]

That is a beautiful Ornate! LOVE the high red on it!
Welcome back to the hobby!

[Xelas23]

Yeap RED ORNATE, a nice one at that. good score and welcome back to the hobby. Pacs are addicting. That looks like a high red at that, where did you get him from?

A guy sold him to me off craigslist, I thought it was too good to be true because a few years ago when I used to keep frogs I never saw or heard of a red pacman so I knew I HAD to have him! I'm hoping to breed him soon, but I wouldn't even know where to look for a good red female. Any suggestions? (Every site I've looked at doesn't have any available.)

Thanks for the confirmation, guys. Its the best news I've had all day :-)

[mikesfrogs]

You won't find any adult female ornates for sale online. I and a few other breeders buy them soon as they are posted.

Look in your mom and pop reptile stores around you. That's the best way of finding them at a good size.
I found a pair of sub adults last week for 75.00

Georgia bulls has some ornates that are good sized. I sold them awahile back To him. He might sell some

[Xelas23]

What about this little green guy? Any ideas on what he could be?

[Ivan M]

Looks like a lime green albino, I am sure the others here will tell you for sure. But that's my guess. Looks healthy as well. Did you get it from the same person?

[GrifTheGreat]

Looks like a Lime Green Albino to me. Make sure that Ornate has no possible way of coming in contact with it. The Ornate will eat that baby with out a second thought.

[Xelas23]

Looks like a lime green albino, I am sure the others here will tell you for sure. But that's my guess. Looks healthy as well. Did you get it from the same person?

Lime Green Albino, yet another that I have never seen or heard. When I first got this one, I thought it was a typical green baby. Google Images set me straight, thanks for the ID ;-) Although, he doesn't look EXACTLY like those, I can see the resemblance. Are they fantasy frogs?

[Xelas23]

Looks like a lime green albino, I am sure the others here will tell you for sure. But that's my guess. Looks healthy as well. Did you get it from the same person?

This one I got from a local fish store :-)

[Ivan M]

Lime Green Albino, yet another that I have never seen or heard. When I first got this one, I thought it was a typical green baby. Google Images set me straight, thanks for the ID ;-) Although, he doesn't look EXACTLY like those, I can see the resemblance. Are they fantasy frogs?

No I believe a fantasy frog is a cross between a cranweli and a cornuta. These albino lime greens are to my belief a pure cranweli. Again I could be wrong, if so the gents here will correct me. I just picked up a samurai blue and also a strawberry, I have posted pics in another thread.

[GrifTheGreat]

No I believe a fantasy frog is a cross between a cranweli and a cornuta. These albino lime greens are to my belief a pure cranweli. Again I could be wrong, if so the gents here will correct me. I just picked up a samurai blue and also a strawberry, I have posted pics in another thread.

The Samurai Breeds and Specials are more Mike and Jess' territory. They are a cross, but I can't remember which 2.

[GeorgiaBulls]

Great looking ornate! I really like that little lime green as well.
If you are looking for a female ornate to breed to that male I have some for sale.
They are juveniles so you will have to wait a while before you can breed.
They are samurai blueline ornates, they are predominately red with a blueish green stripe down their back.
They are really great looking frogs and not very easy to come by. They are going from $100 to $250 depending on color quality.
All of them are very healthy and great eaters. If you are interested email me at ga_bulls@live.com